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Old 05-03-2010, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
And, believe it or not, the Air Force has special teams, too.
fftopic:Sorry. Pararescue, (PJ's), Maroon Beret's. I've seen their training, and although I was just out of High School and in the best shape of my life, I didn't think I wanted anything to do with it. They tried to get me in it, but for some reason I wanted to work on airplanes. Running around on the roads and through the woods with 5 other guys and a telephone pole on my shoulder didn't look like a whole lot of fun.

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Well.... actually.... that's the Navy Seal "trident" pin. According to the website I checked, you get that BEFORE you go thru the really TOUGH training! Hey..... that's just what I read!
This was a really big article so I didn't want to put it up, but I googled "Navy Seal Training" and got the story from there. It looks to me like you must finish training before you are awarded the pin, Hey.....that's just what I read. I don't know why they would give you something that you haven't earned. Especially that pin.

When BUD/S training is over, those remaining move on to basic parachute training at the Army Airborne School at Fort Benning, GA.
This training lasts for three weeks and is followed by SEAL Qualification Training (SQT). SQT is 15 more weeks of training to continue to improve basic skills and to learn new tactics and techniques required for assignment to a SEAL platoon.
It is after successful completion of the SQT that trainees are given their Naval Enlisted Code and awarded the SEAL Trident pin. They are now officially Navy SEALs

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Old 05-03-2010, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Hobo
You mean the FIREMEN and FIRST RESPONDERS??? (that's for YOU, Hoggie! )
Thanks Hobo!
The only hero's that really matter to me, are if one of you heartless slobs ever set me up with a hot tub date with Kim Kardashian. :love:

...or maybe you'd FedEx me your utterly hott single "girl next door" who suns her lean, leggy naked body in her front window.
I promise I won't chain her to the furnace, for any of my racist fanatical religious rituals.

So far Fredog is the only one who has shipped me a couple of his wifes single friends. I had to pay the extra freight, and they've already over-grazed my pasture...but I know it was painful for him to cull these from his herd, just for me. :block:

I like to imagine most wimmin would think of me as a hero. (once they get past the slapping me stage)
I read all the magazine articles in the K-Mart, where wimmin complain their dissappointment over the men in their lives.
They want to be with a man who'll appreciate them and treat them with respect, yada, and yet end up going/staying with passive dirtbag guys who keep them like pets. I rather think they would appreciate a man who will chase them down on all fours, and WOW them with a dog and pony "go out with me" dance.

Well...it's Monday night...time for me to trawl the drunk tanks around here, for the wimmin being released from weekend benders. :smokin:
 
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Old 05-04-2010, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ptarmigan
I'm going to be called names for this. I don't know Windwalker, I don't have any grounds to doubt his service. However, if the number of guys claiming to be SEALs, Rangers, Delta, SAS, CIA, or a member of any other prestigious outfit were to stand on top of one another, thee guy on top could urinate on Mars.

A site, dedicated to verifying the claims of "ex-SEALs", conducted over 2000 verifications. Of those, only 2 were real SEALs.

Or to put it another way, of the people claiming ex-SEAL status, only 0.1% were actually seals, and 99.9% weren't.

I don't know windwalker, and I don't know whether he is one of the 0.1% or the 99.9%
Very good. Excellent, even.
Ever heard of Jesse (the body) Ventura? Former Gov. of MN?

Under his name, given at birth (James George Janos), he was in the Navy and trained with the Seals. Though, never on any team, he is still qualified to wear the pin. Exactly what he did after training, I don't know.

I did complete training, and was never assigned to a team. But, I was also not returned to the regular Navy either, until after the mortar went off behind me. I've had the pin for more than 40 years.

I do know what kind of action John Kerry saw, and I am not "unfamiliar" with how he got his purple hearts. What most of us did not know, at the time, was that when you got 3 of them, you got to go home. There were quite a number of guys that got scratches and even cuts, that were not awarded a purple heart for it. I personally know one guy that has no purple hearts at all, but to look at him, part of his right ear lobe in missing. He also has other scars from when a jeep was blown out from under him. But, no purple hearts. Where does John Kerry rate to get them for scratches? Hero? He degrades the award.
 
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by robertt
I've seen their training, and although I was just out of High School and in the best shape of my life, I didn't think I wanted anything to do with it. They tried to get me in it, but for some reason I wanted to work on airplanes. Running around on the roads and through the woods with 5 other guys and a telephone pole on my shoulder didn't look like a whole lot of fun.
It was a railroad tie.

Originally Posted by robertt
This was a really big article so I didn't want to put it up, but I googled "Navy Seal Training" and got the story from there. It looks to me like you must finish training before you are awarded the pin, Hey.....that's just what I read. I don't know why they would give you something that you haven't earned. Especially that pin.
You're right.
Of the guys that try out for training, only a very small percentage does not either drop out or fail. There is absolutely no disgrace for having tried out and not made it. When leaving the compound, you may even be saluted by an admiral. But, you do not get the pin. I never looked into it, but it is possible that Ptarmigan's high percentage are actually those that did go into training, but left before it was over. "HELL WEEK" (I gotta do WHAT???) has a way of thinning the ranks.

Instead of having all these "health spas" where people try to lose weight, just send them to Coronado.:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Originally Posted by robertt
When BUD/S training is over, those remaining move on to basic parachute training at the Army Airborne School at Fort Benning, GA.
This training lasts for three weeks and is followed by SEAL Qualification Training (SQT). SQT is 15 more weeks of training to continue to improve basic skills and to learn new tactics and techniques required for assignment to a SEAL platoon.
It is after successful completion of the SQT that trainees are given their Naval Enlisted Code and awarded the SEAL Trident pin. They are now officially Navy SEALs
And, one of the things you learn is that you can have many more aches than you have places.
You also learn how to ignore them.
 
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:13 AM
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I don't understand how someone such as John Kerry can brag about his service and purple hearts when there were many who actually saw combat and suffered serious injuries while serving in Vietnam. Most people whom I have known who actually received purple hearts never talk about them. I have several good friends and family members who were in the war. I don't think that anyone who has seen combat, such as in Vietnam, is ever the same as before they experienced the realities of combat and war.
 
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:23 AM
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I don't think that anyone who has seen combat, such as in Vietnam, is ever the same as before they experienced the realities of combat and war.
Maye if Kerry had actually experienced combat, he wouldn't be such a piece of schnit today.
 
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Originally Posted by Twilight Flyer
Maye if Kerry had actually experienced combat, he wouldn't be such a piece of schnit today.
Should I swing at this softball??? :eek2::lol:

Maybe if Dubya HAD.... he would have reconsidered the COST of sending American troops into HIS "Vietnam" which IRAQ will forever be! :hellno::moon::clap:
 
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:31 AM
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robertt said:

This was a really big article so I didn't want to put it up, but I googled "Navy Seal Training" and got the story from there. It looks to me like you must finish training before you are awarded the pin, Hey.....that's just what I read. I don't know why they would give you something that you haven't earned. Especially that pin.

When BUD/S training is over, those remaining move on to basic parachute training at the Army Airborne School at Fort Benning, GA.
This training lasts for three weeks and is followed by SEAL Qualification Training (SQT). SQT is 15 more weeks of training to continue to improve basic skills and to learn new tactics and techniques required for assignment to a SEAL platoon.
It is after successful completion of the SQT that trainees are given their Naval Enlisted Code and awarded the SEAL Trident pin. They are now officially Navy SEALs
YOU are absolutely correct (I think,) robertt. I misread the section of the story that google took me to. YOU didn't give a link, OR state that the story began with page one when YOU googled Navy Seal TRAINING. "I" googled Navy Seal PIN.... and came in on about page THREE! My mistake for not realizing it.

I have not YET read the earlier pages, so I don't know what BUD's training is!! (I guess that's when they make them suffer through drinking PIZZWATER for beer! :rofl:

Seriously, the page I read DID confirm what you said. I misread it. But, it follows with a LIST of "special training" that a SEAL must pass before being assigned to a platoon. Read the list. It is pretty much everything we expect from a SEAL. I'm just saying....

Oh.... you didn't SAVE the link? Well... I did. You want it? LOL... J/K!

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Old 05-05-2010, 12:01 AM
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Hey, Dejanh, you still there? No more comments about Kerry?
 
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Maybe if Dubya HAD.... he would have reconsidered the COST of sending American troops into HIS "Vietnam" which IRAQ will forever be!
You forget that there are things about Bush that I didn't agree with, though my issues with the whole Gulf War deal is that we've utterly farked it up it from the time Bush I handled it, up through Bush II and certainly through today's Bungler-In-Chief. I still don't consider the middle east to be anywhere near a comparison to Viet Nam, though.

As far as Bush and his service, I've never defended it and found no need to. But then again, Bush didn't come out and claim that he was a hero with 3 bogus purple hearts, either. People went after and slammed Bush for his "service" and he quietly took it. Kerry, on the other hand, made his own bed with his absurd actions and even more ignorant claims.
 
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