Are the that much of a cold-hearted SOB? Do you have any idea what Fozzy and Hobo are talking about? Do yourself and the board a favor and shut the hell up about this one. If you want to rant your liberal crap, you are more than welcome to. But not on this thread and not in this way. As Hobo said, this is between him and Fozzy and it is my hope that they can work through it. But you don’t know jack-schit about what Fozzy has/is going through, so back your truck way up. There absolutely will not be another warning about it and I hope that’s clear as a bell to you.

 

Like most other things you post, no one here expected anything different
Now who’s babbling?
So other than doing more pissing on his grave, what’s the point of this two faced “interjection”? The fact is that someone in the airforce who’s primary role was shining a seat with his ass wouldn’t understand most of what is or is not an honor in the combat arms field.

Again, you are stuck in Vietnam (as if you were there). There was one fragging incident in the run up to the war and again it happened in the 101st ABN division, that of course was pulled off by another Muslim ape. The fragging episodes where mainly a product in Vietnam because of the draft status, and the then movement of the “black power” movement within the military at the time.

Maybe you should have, you like most elitist high nosed liberal are incapable of it, you interject things into topics that are unwarranted to make your self feel better or others feel worse.
Too bad it was all bull**** and conjecture. The men that did the crime for which they were being escorted were hated for the cowards that they were. This is again something that someone who’s never been in the field may not know. Bringing disrespect and danger to their brothers in theatre is something that is looked down on by these men. For the liberals in this country, they believe doing so then and now is “ their rights”, mainly this is because their sorry asses are not in the crosshairs somewhere where their words and support to their enemies could cause them real harm.
Are you F*CKING insane? Do you expect anyone to buy this trash? My one main concern after my son was killed was the fact that we knew and supported and talked to his brothers and for a good 24 hour period we did not know if any of these other fine young men perished with him. I don’t wish to “share” this experience with anyone. To make the statement you just made you minimized all of these men and women’s deaths even further!
Don’t I ?
Who said anything about conservatives? Most of the liberals aren’t as vile as some of the totally deranged Bush hate corps who do what they did and continue (obviously) to do.

I didn’t slander anyone at all.. everyone sees the behavior from you that I do. Maybe this is why its continually having to be “made very clear to you” ? I don’t post here or anywhere because the internet is full of people like you. There is no discussion, just some perverse desire to be right, and if you cannot be right or are shown to be wrong, you resort to such extremely vile behavior that further discussion is just a waste of time.
And like most abusive high nosed jerks, you feel you are made to do these things by the other party. “I love you! why do you make me hit you?”.. that probably sounds quite familiar to you or those around you.

 

You are hell bent on cleansing this forum so warning or not, just ban me and be done with it for once....I have been called many names by this same guy and i didnt do anything to him, where were you then?

Push it Batman, please.

 

OK.

Now, even though you are gone, I know you can and will read this. So for your benefit, as well as the benefit of others, here's your explanation.

If you paid attention, you'd know that I was gone for most of last year. Also, if you had been paying attention, you would know that Fozzy lost a son in Iraq and your comments in THIS thread about him were cold, callous, and absolutely uncalled for. My warning was based on your comments here on THIS thread.

It may also interest you to know that I have no intention of cleansing the forum. This is not a conservative-only club, even though the majority of the posters are just that. That's because the majority of people that work in the trucking industry are conservative. That cannot be helped...it is simply the nature of this business. If you can't deal with that, maybe you should be out trying to convert more truck drivers over to the liberal side.

I like Fozzy. I also like Hobo, despite the head-butting we do on this forum and he and I are polar opposites. I understand Fozzy's pain and I understand Hobo's current stance. But while I understand where they are each coming from, I don't totally agree with everything that each of them is saying, either. That's my prerogative.

But what I won't tolerate is someone being totally scummy to someone else in the here and now. Kicking someone in the ribs that has experienced the loss that Fozzy and Bunny did, is about as low as you can get. And I had a couple of PMs this morning from people that are not anywhere even remotely involved in this, expressing their outrage at your posting last night.

I cannot address the past, as I missed quite a bit of it between the two. But as I told Hobo, what's done is done...let's try to move on. As far as this thread goes, Fozzy is p.o.'d and so is Hobo. Right now, they're arguing. At this point, everyone is OK with that. That may change as we move forward and if it does, we'll take the appropriate action as necessary. But right now, neither is crossing the line.

You did.

You were told not to, but were NOT immediately banned in large part because of Hobo's response to you. You were given another chance.

You decided your course after that, no one else.

Look, I understand that you are a young buck full of pizz and vinegar, thinking you own the world. It's not for me to educate you otherwise - that was for your parents. And I don't care if you don't like me. There are people in this world that don't like me and there are people that I don't like. That's life and I don't spend any time worrying about it.

But when it comes to the board, we're under direction from IB to moderate the board and we have standards that we have to adhere to. You went over that line, were warned accordingly, and then defied that warning. Doesn't leave us with much choice.

And if not me, it would have been another mod. We are in agreement with all bans and time-outs. And while we are doing this, then you need to understand that as playground monitors, you've got to mind us when we point out that you're getting out of hand. If you can't do that, then you're not going to last long. It's that simple.

 

Looks like you really do not understand it at all.

Bush is no hero. He was simply better than those the opposition put up against him. But, Kerry is at the bottom of the barrel, if not below it. Where Kerry is not qualified to lead a boy scout troop, Bush could probably do so. But, he ain't no hero.

 

FOZZY, it's good to see you back. Even if someone had to get your dander up in order to get you to say something.

 

Welcome back Fozzy.

We retired Windy since you've been gone.
There's still some cake left in the Moose Lodge. (I think it's cake)

 

Honestly, I do not know how "back" that I am or will be. It's been a pretty odd and stressful couple of weeks. I have a blog as some folks here know. I don't get a lot of hits and and even fewer comments but that's fine as I have not written the blogs to do anything but focus on my feelings and share with a few people who happen to be looking for something like this. The other day, I had a comment left on one of my blogs that irritated the daylights out of me. It irritated me because this is what America has come to represent to me more and more. I wrote a while back about the AP posting pictures of a young marine who had just been mortally wounded and even though the parents begged these parasites to not most the pictures, they did so anyway. I remember that there were of course some here who hopped up and down and made asses of themselves defending the AP, but that's their problem. Anyway, Here is the comment left on the blog about the Marine;

Joe Cortina: The only ‘scumbags’ in this picture were (1)the Marine who was murdering civilians in a nation where he had NO business being and (2) ‘Sec of War Crimes’ – Gates – the sadistic bastard who gets his kicks by having helpless children murdered by the tens and hundreds of thousands by our BRAVE baby killers.

Scum like that Marine have disgraced the uniform I wore with honor before he was even born! The Godless child murdering sadistic mercenary scum in uniform today are no beter than Stalin’s butchers or Mao’s Chi-Com killers.

Now I know that the same sentiment is shared by some posters here, so I'll not ramble on about how stupid they are and let them get their undies all in a twist.

I lurk here and there and the same old drivel from some of the trolls here just needed addressing and I was in the mood. Iraq isn't and never will be anyone's Vietnam. When cornered, the poster actually admits that it's not anything like Vietnam at all and flaps off into outer space in the same old "well I have the right to spread bull***** because I hate President Bush...

Today I met with LT John Watrin, he is the Engineer who pulled my son out of the Humvee literally seconds after the Iranian made EFP struck it. He is the man who made the memorial barracks sign and who when my son's old unit returns from their latest deployment to A-stan (They are leaving this week) will be there with us when one of the Barracks at his old base is dedicated and the sign placed there. We had breakfast and went to the cemetery to visit Micheal and we had a nice time.

I'm pretty worn out.

 

That is the true definition of a POS troll whose only tactic and purpose is to shock and disgust. I don't believe for a second that he "wore the uniform" and I don't believe he's any more than some fat little schitbag sitting at home in mommy's basement, playing internet Rambo behind an anonomous screen name when he's not getting his pathetic X-Box azz fragged in whatever the current version of Moder Warfare is.

Those garbage heaps are everywhere, Fozzy, and tend to get what's coming to them. Whether you believe in karma or divine justice, they do get what's coming to them.

I'm on board with you on pretty much everything. But I'll stop short in saying that Hobo is the same kind of person this Cortina schmuck is. I disagree with Hobo on just about everything, just as you do and I was as vocal about the AP scumbags publishing the photo of that dying marine as anybody was.

Like you, I think Hobo is wrong, wrong, wrong about a great many things and I don't hesitate to tell him. But I'll put myself on a limb and say I don't believe he's doing it to shock and disgust, like this Cortina skidmark did. I believe that Hobo's beliefs are just that - his beliefs. And he hasn't been always the best at getting his points across, this by his own admission.

But I've had some good discussions behind the scenes with him, especially lately. I know he feels remorse for things that have happened in the past between you and him and I think he feels frustrated about things that he meant as opposed to how they were perceived.

I'm not trying to defend him - only saying that sometimes we get misunderstood on a messageboard and if the topic is a volatile one (and this one is as raw as any topic ever could be), it can get out of hand in a heartbeat. Only he knows exactly what he meant over what he said, but I think he's sincere in his feelings that he was taken out of context.

Anyway, like I said, I'm not trying to defend anyone...just hoping to be the voice of reason in the middle. Ah, the life of a moderator.

I think, though, that I speak for everyone here (including Hobo) when I say that whether you are here full time or not, you know you are always welcome. And all of us prays and/or hopes that you eventually find that peace you and your wife certainly deserves.

 

Well, I had some words to say to this tool, I penned a long diatribe, and decided to replace it with an invitation instead for Mr. Cortina to chew on my nuts.

As for wearing the uniform, this assclown claims, from some research Fozzy and I did, to be a former Special Forces Officer. His story, when examined in the light of his purported age, doesn't add up.

There is a group online who spend lots of time unmasking people who claim to be special forces, when they are actually not, and that group have been notified of Mr. Cortina's claims, the post he made on Fozzy's blog, and several other statements he made online. They have submitted a FOIA request for his DD-214 and I suspect we'll find out that the guy is a fraud and a liar.