HEY HOBO- YOU SPELLED 'THREADS' WRONG! HA!


(yeah, I did not notice it right away )

 

Must have caught it AFTER you dyed your hair!! :lol:

I'm lookin' for reruns of 42! :wink: I like spy KNOVELS!

How about "stayed?" I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be "staid," but that just don't LOOK right! :lol:

 

I believe 'stayed' is correct- but don't take my word for it!

(nope- not 'dying' my hair )

 

I am not even going to repeat all that Hobo! :lol:

You have made your stance, and a good one it was.

Now my last word.

The Law of God to man was written on stone, this is known as the law of sin and death, BEcause it shows man how bad he is. It was givven to the Jews, untill the messiah came. Because this Law was just a shadow of Him.
As for the gentiles--the book of Romans tells us that the gentiles do things that pertain to the law, therfor showing it already written on there hearts, and this leavs No man inexcusable when it comes to Gods Law.
My point is that under this Law, the remission of sin, requiered the shedding of blood, or the death of the sinner. And the sin was to go against this law wich is Gods Word.
Jesus being God did take all the worlds sin upon Himself, therfor was found guilty for us, even though He was sinless. thus He becomes the sacrifice. He in a sense is found guilty, because He subjected himself to his own law ie word.
Hebrews tells us that faith is the only way to please God, and the Jews didnot enter into the rest of God because of unbelief, Adam and Eve fell because of Unbelief, Unbelief is the root of all sins. This is my point.
Disobediance is Unbelief--Unbelief in what God say's that will happen and it screws up the concious, and the only way we know that it screws up the concious is by the Law, and once we know what the law says, we see that we are Spiritualy dead.
Now Jesus died for this sin against God for us, and rose to give us New life in Him, and the New covenant that is in effect is no longer the law of sin and death written on stone, but Now is to Love thy God with all thy heart, and Love thy Neibor as yourself.
As for God creating Evil--this I know it is in the scriptures and I have proclaimed this. I am not saying that God does not know evil for I do not think that evil and sin is the same thing.
The knowleg of the law is what killed the spirit, if God would have never told Adam "dont eat the tree" and Adam would have ate it. I do not believe that it would have been considered sin. Because he would not have been going against Gods Word.

When Jesus came He put an end to the Old Covenant, He fulfilled it. And those who are in Christ, no longer need the tutoring of it.

As for my discussing this, I wanted to because of the simple fact that most Christians try to live up to this law, it is impossible to, and we do not have to. Jesus did it for us.
You made a statment that I might be looking for a law to live by. NO-- I just like discussing, the Word of God, even if I have to go as far back as the Old Covenant.

As for the little stabs towards my understanding of the Word of God. I understand things that the Holy Spirit has taught me about God, that most people who call themselves Christians would say could never be.
As for the Pope-- He is just a man and that is all, no diffrent than you or I. And I have known many a preachers that do not understand as much as you or I.
I know the Word and what it teaches me, and I took offense at you trying to be-little me. I have no problem of discussing things, and never have, but for you to assume some of the things, that you might think that I think :?
I find offensive! Give me some credit, and a little more respect, and don't jump to such conclusions of what I may or maynot think! I have shown you nothing but respect, and even gave you the links to read all the past things of what I and others have discussed, If you would have read them, I do not think you would have said or assumed some of the things that you did.

As for talking in circle's-- You and I both know that this type of conversation will always come in a circle at some point, no matter how hard we try.

Now that all has been said, Lets argue with Fozzy! :lol:

Oh, one more thing-- I pmed 2 acuatince's on another site, and invited them to this conversation. I do not agree with very much of what one of them says, but he has very good points, and can debate with the best of them. The other is very knowlegable in the scriptures, and writes very well. I hope they show up soon!

 

I dont have a lot of time this AM (heading to the gym for a couple of hours) but this convenient political ignorance is just as bad if not worse than the religious ignorance. The conservatives are no more a blight on the country than the liberals were or are. It was the Southern democrats who lead with the burning cross and the confederate battle flag as their standards and it was FDR who was the biggest Fascist on the planet at the time (put IL DUCE to shame) who destroyed the constitution and we a still suffering from that and the LBJ "Great Society" programs.. Seems like this country cannot survive without the "strawman argmument" to fall back on.

 

Slimland said:

Gee, Slim. I'm glad you followed all that up with a smilie face! Otherwise, I'd really be hurt!

I did NOT mean to offend or belittle you, and can't find the references to such in my posts.

My reference to you looking for a law to live by, is based on what you said about your ?wicken? experience. It would seem natural that coming from that world to this one, would require some concrete instructions.

Perhaps, I should have said that, next to the Pope, who has spent nearly 50 years in CONSTANT study of the Word, we are BOTH grasshoppers (as in the Kung Fu sense.) But, "I" wasn't the one that said he should read more!

I don't really remember, nor can I find where I said, that I assume what you think. I thought I pretty much quoted some of the things you said off the other threads. Maybe, I missed something by not reading all 18 pages of some of the threads (although, I'd read through many of them at the time) but I DID read every word of the shorter ones.

Again, I'm SORRY if you felt I was belittling you in ANY way. I thought I made it clear that that was NOT my intention. If you are referring to the scripture about "vain jangling," well.... I'M NOT THE AUTHOR of it. I was REALLY referring more to how religious scholars, in general, interpret the word to fit their own theories. But, in a way, yes... that's kinda what I thought you were doing. Which is why I ever started this thread.

I found you quoting here and there, and building a case for what I found to be an illogical conclusion. If I hadn't, I would have said, "good job!" and let it go.

My problem with your claims had LESS to do with how you interpreted the scripture, and MORE to do with your progression of logic. If "I" couldn't understand or believe the point you were trying to make, I felt others couldn't either.

For what it's worth, I feel you defended your case quite well here, and by changing some of your words, you are expressing the same sentiments, but in a manner that makes more sense.

That was ALL I was trying to accomplish. I guess now I'm sorry I even bothered. But, like you, I just enjoy a good debate about religion, politics AND linguistics!

Like I said to another.... now you know WHY I stayed off most of your other threads. :lol:

 

Fozzy: Don't blame ME or Dems or Liberals for the fact that the BASE of the conservative party is the Moral Majority! WE are not invading your bedroom, cutting off your "equal" benefits based on whether you marry according to the Biblical interpretation of such (against the Constitutional mandate of separation of church and state.)

Everyone knows that the old "Southern Democrats" were about as conservative as they come... being mostly landowners who longed for the days of slavery. And the Confederate battle flag is now the banner of the racist Aryan nations.

I was no big fan of LBJ, but I think he was on the right track with the "great society" thing. He believed that it would strengthen ALL Americans if ALL Americans had a chance at the dream.

As for FDR, I must admit, I wasn't born yet, so I'm not completely "up" on this. Please explain to me how he was the biggest Fascist on the Earth. And don't leave out the part about how he was elected to four terms with the help of conservative, defense minded Americans.
Oh, and I'd like to know how you feel he destroyed the Constitution.

 

GolfHobo-- I deeply apologize for my lack of understanding of your post.
Let me explain-- I have been dealing with the Devil, and that would be my ex-wife and here satanic ways. She has a nack for getting undermy skin, by unsing my children, to further her means. But I thank God that I have custody of them, but this only lessens her presence.
So needless to say I was a little sinsitive when I read your post and took it to heart. And I also read into what was not there!

So please accept my apology, for I am deeply sorry!

Slimland.

 

"ex-wife and her satanic ways"- :lol: :lol:
Ouch!

 

What? There's another kind??? :wink: