Originally Posted by shyykatt

I guess I don't understand THE POINT ya'll are trying to make; especially 'God being subject to his own law'- so what if he is or isn't? The way I have learned it, is that God can do whatever he wants (in terms of making the laws to begin with)- he is GOD!

Originally Posted by Slimland

Bashadi glad you could join! But take it a little easier, they don't know ya yet!

Yall this is Bashadi, I do not agree with what he stands for, but he give's one heck of an argument, and has some very good points and insight! I hope yall injoy him, but he is cocky :lol:

Oh--Bashadi there are somelinks on some of the earlier pages, they are some of the recent debates, I think one or 2 are locked, but there still open!

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Hello Slimland,

A little different, I are!

Different is o.k. Different can be good. It is ONLY by considering different points of view that we can fine tune our own beliefs.

My company arrived from the north and I think my nickels have been well spent. Sharp cookie and knows his cosmology. After 25+ years of study, I finally have someone capable of taking my work and preparing for a submission to yall.

Personally, I would like to hear more about this... if you can tell your story in plain English. Who are these mysterious Canadians of whom you speak? What kind of study have you been involved in? Personal pursuit of knowledge as gleaned from the writings of man? Or some kind of "classes.?"

As for 'stubborn' well I are one and definitely not from following but being competent in my studies. just because I do not articulate within the constraints as prescribed by majority, does not mean stupid.

I'm sure you realize that SOMETIMES, being "stubborn" CAN be considered stupid. I am speaking about MYSELF here, too. I did NOT mean to imply that because you ramble on, grabbing at words over which you have no control, obscuring your message, and confusing the issue; that you are in ANY way stupid or a "follower." I assume you are smart enough to know that.

Is intelligence based on language?

No... but conversation IS.

Is reasoning based on following, or knowledge?

No... neither, actually. It is based on structure. Whether it be scientific reasoning or intellectual reasoning, it makes it easier if one follows certain rules known to all who would want to engage.

No! But ignorance is based on ....? well you pick the definition.

IMHO, it would be based on prejudice, apathy and conceit.

I have to get ready for a big day, you know, like giving a little back as thanks for being alive.

This is a noble gesture, coming from an "enlightened one." Almost as noble as humility, and almost as useful as "understanding" and "accepting" those who might not yet share your opinions or knowledge.

Like I said earlier... Welcome! But, do not be deceived by the fact that this is a Trucker's Forum. Rarely in my life, have I met such a group of intelligent, experienced and "spiritually" aware individuals.

But, it wouldn't HURT to try to speak in plain English now and then.

Hobo

Originally Posted by Bishadi

So God is now a person or that guy on a thrown(sp?) 'thinking' about it.

Bishadi questions your belief that God is some entitiy that "sits on a throne in heaven" like the "thinker" statue making laws for us to follow, as opposed to a pervading spirit of consciousness that surrounds us in every aspect and circumstance of our lives.

In a sense... we are either a part of the singularity or of selfish intent.

This concept is well know in Christianity, and is the subject of many "tracts." That the lost insist on letting their EGO sit on the throne of their lives, rather than letting GOD or "spiritual" intent rule their lives. By letting spirituality sit on the throne of our lives, we become ONE with the universe. By maintaining our SELVES on the throne, we exclude ourselves from the glory of total consciousness, and wallow in the despair of human futility.

HE WANTS?????? WHO? Bring HIM over to the house. Let's try it again.... HE is the total... both sides of right and wrong are of God, per se and this Love between conscious species are that Love for Him, per se, it is when we either are to be aware of other first, or not. Ask Jesus if you want.

Bishadi does not believe that God is a being that could be invited to dinner, but rather an idea or consciousness, and that we are ALL part of our own salvation and damnation. Ying and yang. Good and Evil. What goes around comes around. We MAKE our own destiniy, based on how we treat others (who are just another manifestation of our OWN selves and the cosmic energy that is GOD.)

Wrong! Trust in what the secular writings of men or see within the compassion offered by the humble originating source that shows us how we are equal and are a part of that singularity and how we should be associating as conscious things all enabling 'life' to continue. Otherwise we will head right into the self destruction you see theology imposing right now on the global front.

Bishadi believes that the secular (or religious) teachings of MAN have led us to believe that we cannot KNOW the heart of God, and are not meant to understand. He believes that God has offered us the ability to understand him, and SHARE in the truth that he is. We have the choice to seek the understanding and therefore, the perfect love and truth, or let the petty "preachings" of humans who claim to speak for Him lead us into the wars and destruction that have come from following our own "ignorant" interpretations of his will.

Questioning men when they separate us is true care and living for Him is acknowledging that He is a part of every one of us and that in all branches of these children each has something to add.\

Bishadi believes that it is our duty, out of love and devotion to our Lord who is the total truth, to question those who would separate the Creation by instilling religious prejudices against others who may believe differently, yet still believe. If we would but try to understand and accept those of different faiths, we would find that they have spiritual understanding that dovetails nicely with what we believe or SHOULD believe.

Then to assemble these pieces together you will find that God is existing within the whole thing called cosmos and that the answers to what makes us tic is actually available right now. It is the selfishness of man that has kept the secularism whereas this understanding has been missed.

If we would all just try harder to comprehend the totality of the human experience, and realize that we are ALL children of the same God (or creative force,) we might give up our selfish prejudices, live in peace and harmony with ALL of creation, and realize that the TRUTH is not something to be gained in the afterlife, but rather something that is all around us and available for us to grab and comprehend NOW. Before it is too late.

Nice to have the internet because them days will soon be over.

Thank God (who worked through Bill Gates and Al Gore) for the Internet, cuz it makes it much easier to research, and the next generation (who have forgotten what a library IS,) can be more intelligent and enlightened than us old "fossils" who live in ignorance due to being too lazy to really "search" for truth.

You guys???? I have to pay someone to bring this to the public because most are too freaking stubborn and I do not have the patience to baby sit.

Bishadi does NOT like being considered one of "the guys" who he believes do not understand. He has paid good money to bring his "self acclaimed" knowledge to the world, and has designated himself as a "parent" and has little patience for those of us who don't immediately acknowledge him as having that level of experience, knowledge and authority.

Either take a read and learn or not, I don;t care. I have worked most of my life for this and it is not you I am writing for. It is the next generations. Maybe they can have something unbiased based in empirical data and the last and final chapter to share what the heck we are doing here and why.

He means, "take it or leave it" concerning the TRUTH that HE has spoken, and he has allready given up on any of us "taking it." By his own words, he has stated that he doesn't CARE about OUR generation. He has given up on us. He thinks that, in due time, science will bear him out concerning the fact that God is not an entity, but rather a cosmic IDEA, and the next generation will figure it out, and save the World.

Funny part is most all of theology from most of the globe will be vindicated because most have been pointing to the same exact framework since the beginning of the written languages.

He is amused by the fact that, when ALL is understood, we will find that we were fighting over nothing but WORDS! The truth has been told by ALL Shamans, Priests, Preachers, and Prophets. That there IS but ONE God, and he is "The Creator." Or at least he is but ONE TRUTH. We are NO different than our brothers of another faith. Not the Buddhists, nor the Muslims! And it is THIS dichotomy that leads the "spiritualists" to their beliefs. That there is but ONE consciousness that understands and represents ALL. And that, to REACH this level of consciousness, we must put aside all prejudices, arguments, wars, and hatred.... and learn to LOVE our fellow being becuase he IS NO LESS than ourselves.

Yes, I am that idiot who made a promise and I don't care about conforming to anyone other than being true with care and compassion to share what our fathers have been telling us long ago.

I'm not sure just WHAT promise he made. And, (after confering with my dictionary of spiritualists,) I would NOT confer on him the mantle of "idiot." I am convinced that he is sincere in his beliefs and diligent in his pursuit of spiritual knowledge. I would ONLY advise him to guard against a conceited tongue, and an egotistical mind.

And ask that he NOT talk down to, or feed, the Truckers! :lol:

Originally Posted by Slimland

To let y'all know, I am finding it hard to get on here. I am not leaving nor am I taking a break again. But MY daughter has been very sick, and yesterday I had to take her to the doctor again after taking her to the ER twice already. What they thought was a stomach flu for the last 2 weeks was actualy a ruptured appendix.
Thank God that the body walled of the infection, wich they say is rare. But unfortanatly some did get into her body cavity. So they did a sugery to release the infection and put her on anti-biotics, this will go on for 6 weeks if everything goes right, and then they will take out what is left of the appendix. If the fever doesn't go away, then they will have to do another surgery sooner and clean her out.
So hang in there, my limited time, just got more limited!!

Sincerly
Slimland