[TGTLLC]

Originally Posted by Drew10

Fireman, you know as well as I do, that drivers do not want to switch to an electronic logging system because.....ahhh...shall we say, "when adjustments have to be made". :wink: :wink:
My opinion, though, Electronic logs would put everybody on a level playing field, and it would put shippers and recievers into a tail spin, forcing minimum dock delays, holding to appt times etc. Electronic logs are no big deal, just requires time management, and it may just get them dang advocacy groups off our back.

yep i am a guilty party when it comes to ajusting my logs. it does not happen evry oftin as i run for the same shipper and recievers are usually farmers but every once in a while ajustments have to be made if theres a tie up some where. so yea i guess that would be a big reason i am aginst electronic logs.

as far as them mailing the logs to you, that is a great thing they do. i have never really talked with guys who run electronic logs let alone worked for a company with on board computers but i guess everything has its benefits and drawbacks.

[fireman932003]

Originally Posted by Drew10

Fireman, you know as well as I do, that drivers do not want to switch to an electronic logging system because.....ahhh...shall we say, "when adjustments have to be made". :wink: :wink:
My opinion, though, Electronic logs would put everybody on a level playing field, and it would put shippers and recievers into a tail spin, forcing minimum dock delays, holding to appt times etc. Electronic logs are no big deal, just requires time management, and it may just get them dang advocacy groups off our back.

I liked the paperless logs personally. I would have to agree that all you need is proper time management. I think people don't like it because they think they are not in control when in fact you are in control. Where it will not work for you is if you are one of those drivers that like to log it one way and then run it another. In my PERSONAL experience, I have found that I made just as much money if not more money on the paperless logs as I did with the traditional paper logs. Plus, it helps out with dispatch of loads because the computer knows all your hrs and can put a load on you that you can handle within your legal hrs! Now, I am not saying that the system is perfect. Its not. But it works well. If you do find a error, just send in a macro to the logs department and they will adjust it to make it right. Just my opinion!

[Drew10]

I agree, fireman...
Drivers that dont like them, never gave them a chance to work or never tried them.

Where it will not work for you is if you are one of those drivers that like to log it one way and then run it another.

Thats exactly what I mean about a "level playing field". Even though we have so called rules, How many actually "play by the rules" basically giving in to running illegal to accomidate poor planning by dispatch, or delays at shippers/recievers or even to suit themselves.

[ICS]

i have to admit that the paperless logs seem like a good thing. I bet you one day all of the trucks are going to be running it. that day of paper anything is coming to an end. But for now I prefer using the paper mainly because most companies use it and I want to use what is the industry standard. But i have a feeling in 20 years we all will be using it. and driving Autos at 65mph.

[Orangetxguy]

Originally Posted by Drew10

Fireman, you know as well as I do, that drivers do not want to switch to an electronic logging system because.....ahhh...shall we say, "when adjustments have to be made". :wink: :wink:
My opinion, though, Electronic logs would put everybody on a level playing field, and it would put shippers and recievers into a tail spin, forcing minimum dock delays, holding to appt times etc. Electronic logs are no big deal, just requires time management, and it may just get them dang advocacy groups off our back.

Drew...Two very solid points for why trucking companies should implement "electronic logs". Not only would they put all of us on a level playing field...it would place shippers & receivers on notice to operate their facilities much more efficiently. E-logs might even have a positive effect on freight rates...upward positive.
Getting the "A-groups" of our backs would be nice too !!

[ordinaryguy]

wow people are bashing Werner, heh I've never seen that at all...paperless logs are just fine. been with Werner for almost 3 years...Ive had to use a paper log once when i was in Canada, up in Edmonton, AB the qualcomm has no signal...turned 687 miles the other day, in 10.5 hrs, from Ardmore, OK to Limon, CO....and i even hit OKC at 8am...they havent screwed me yet, probably because i have a good fleet manager and i am on one of the better dedicated accounts...

[TrkrKenO]

My wife will test this friday hoping to pass, she is good. i got some post and ? about finding a good team company. How is werner about their home time in Pittsburgh Pa. We need to be home every other week.They told here to show up in Allentown after easter if she wants the job.

[dle]

When i was with werner, my log routinely got messed up. Me and the log department got to know each other pretty well.

It has a lot to do with your qcom unit and not much with the fleet manager you have. It finally took the unit saying that I was in OK driving well beyond my hours, even though I was at the Flying J in Dallas. Plus a little bit of yelling.

And what do you know, when they pulled the unit - it had failed all the tests they put it through.

For those of you who like to play with the range switch, be careful. Depending on how the unit is set up, it could show you moving (line 3).

I think that electronic logs are good to a point. Do I think that electronic logs, by themselves, will improve shippers/receivers - no. Improve freight rates, don't think so.

[Drew10]

I think that electronic logs are good to a point. Do I think that electronic logs, by themselves, will improve shippers/receivers - no. Improve freight rates, don't think so

Run 100% legal, dont make up for shipper/reciever delays, tell dispatch unable to run this trip legal, and watch how fast things change. Would be better than any "strike" could possibly accomplish, and you wouldnt be out of a job during the "strike".
We (truckdrivers) really are our worst enemies.

[Ridge Runner]

Originally Posted by Drew10

Run 100% legal, dont make up for shipper/reciever delays, tell dispatch unable to run this trip legal, and watch how fast things change. Would be better than any "strike" could possibly accomplish, and you wouldnt be out of a job during the "strike".
We (truckdrivers) really are our worst enemies.

You hit the nail on the head with that one Drew10!

If all the trucks went from running 2500 to 2800 miles a week to 1800 to 2000 miles, THEN AND ONLY THEN will someone in upper management start to aks questions.

The company it'self has to turn x number of miles per truck to make a profit. The problem is getting drivers to LOG IT AS THEY DO IT. As long as they cheat on their logs then they only cheat themselvs.