Split sleeper berth question
#51
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Originally Posted by mike3fan
Originally Posted by Dawn
Originally Posted by Jack_07
That was a very good answer KC, and in that case the log book needs to match with the time stamps on fuel tickets, bills, reciepts of any kind that might be found in the drivers posession at the time of inspection. and in the case of the driver that started this thread that gets paid by the hour he needs to log to get paid, so it really needs to be done as he did it.
I can pay you to be in the sleeper if I want. Many drivers get detention pay and they are in the sleeper. The point is they should log line 4 when working but not driving. They can prove you was on line 4 "sometimes". Other times it is just common sense it would take @ least 15 minutes. I am familiar with all creative ways of logging,my original post was asking about splitting my sleeper berth between going into the plant and loading and continuing my break afterwards.How would you suggest I explain to Mr. Dot-man how my truck got scaled in and out if I was in the sleeper berth and I do not have a co-driver? The log certainly does have an affect on getting detention,Ihave to be in the plant to get detention and to get into the plant I must first scale my truck and trailer,which is time stamped. Of course you must scale your load, if I remember correctly we wasn't talking about scaling the load? :roll:
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by mike3fan
Ok Miss Noitall,how is my tanker gonna get loaded with my tare weight and gross weight if I don't scale it in and out and be present and able to perform emergency procedures if I am not on duty?
I am familiar with all creative ways of logging,my original post was asking about splitting my sleeper berth between going into the plant and loading and continuing my break afterwards.How would you suggest I explain to Mr. Dot-man how my truck got scaled in and out if I was in the sleeper berth and I do not have a co-driver?
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Once again Dawn shows she has no knowledge (except in her little world). If you Dawn knew more you would have know most tankers scale in the plant. Same goes for most of the larger beer plants.
Plus you have missed the original question. I know you won't listen but I'll say it anyway -- Be for you open your mouth (post) try reading the question and understanding what is going on. kc0iv
#55
Originally Posted by kc0iv
Once again Dawn shows she has no knowledge (except in her little world). If you Dawn knew more you would have know most tankers scale in the plant. Same goes for most of the larger beer plants.
Plus you have missed the original question. I know you won't listen but I'll say it anyway -- Be for you open your mouth (post) try reading the question and understanding what is going on. kc0iv
#56
Originally Posted by Dawn
The poster himself was trying to log illegal and I of course the "log" in me had to correct him, he will get busted and if he doesn't good for him
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I drive for 5 hours after a 10 hour break,get to shipper and go into sleeper berth for 2 hours waiting for appt.,on duty not driving for 2 hrs loading and then go into sleeper berth for 8 more hours,how many hours can I drive?
Here is my thoughts,since you usually take the time driving between the split sleeper berths and subtract from 11 and that gives you what you can drive I think I have the full 11hrs available,thoughts?
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#57
Originally Posted by Dawn
What I said logs has nothing to do with what you get paid. If you log sleeper you can be paid! If you log line 4, does that mean you will get paid for it, NO! DOT does not always care what you get paid for. We pay our drivers detention pay and most of the time they are in the sleeper reading a book?
Of course you must scale your load, if I remember correctly we wasn't talking about scaling the load? :roll: I know you live in your own little world and all but all companies pay and log things differently and you need to realize that.
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Originally Posted by kc0iv
Once again Dawn shows she has no knowledge (except in her little world). If you Dawn knew more you would have know most tankers scale in the plant. Same goes for most of the larger beer plants.
Plus you have missed the original question. I know you won't listen but I'll say it anyway -- Be for you open your mouth (post) try reading the question and understanding what is going on. kc0iv I stuck a stick into a hornets nest didn't I Rev. lol I have worked on both sides of this industry Rev, you could write up 90 percent of the drivers for false logs. Especially when they average the miles they drove by the miles per hour. Now explain to me how you would know whether or not I switched the sleeper berth with the on duty not driving to give me a full 10 hour break if you was a DOT officer working by the road side and did not witness me doing so? It sure would look Jam up on paper wouldn't it ? Now Rev if I told you what was going on the the State of Ga MCCD inspectors your jaws would drop wide open and say not so. DOT has sat outside shippers/consignee's before (as my phone was ringing off the hook, I was new to the company so they wasn't told to log line 4 for loading/unloading as many companies do not stress to log line 4 time for this). The drivers was being pulled over once they was leaving. I was responding the person who made the statement above! AS usual in these threads on this board someone makes other statements that need to be corrected. Nothing I said above is incorrect! I will stand my ground .
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by Dawn
And you response makes no sense what so ever!
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by kc0iv
Once again Dawn shows she has no knowledge (except in her little world). If you Dawn knew more you would have know most tankers scale in the plant. Same goes for most of the larger beer plants.
Plus you have missed the original question. I know you won't listen but I'll say it anyway -- Be for you open your mouth (post) try reading the question and understanding what is going on. kc0iv |

