Classy......:roll:

 

Although I do not believe all Muslims are terrorist threats I do believe the seed is there. Any country helping Israel is viewed as a threat. Might be a narrow view but if you think about it ...

the greatest population of Muslim and Islamic nations are in the middle east
since the politics of the region generally dictate the peoples point of view I see many of thees countries burning American flags as well as Israeli flags. I think that's a good sign they don't like us very much
most terrorist attacks are Muslim/Islamic in nature

On top of these quick notes I have read many books written by ppl who have converted from Islam and Muslim, they all have the same intolerance for non-Muslims and the same msg. First the Jew, then the christian. A truly Muslim POV has extreme intolerance for anything non-Muslim. I'm not backing over zealot Christians ether even though I classify myself as a christian Jew. The Spanish inquisition, many holy wars, the conflicts in Europe, and even the hulicost was partly the responsibility of ppl that calmed they were doing this for their christian reasons.

I guess my point of this post, other than to point out my views based on the facts I have gathered is that if they knew he was Muslim, it should have flagged him. As much as we like our democracy, the military is anything but. The day the military tries to be if the day it fails.

 

By nature any type of organized religion divides and seperates from others who do not belong to their tribe (so to speak) That is why IMHO I think religion is a farce... My creator did not set out to seperate humanity or dictate whom to take as your savior. My creator's ideal dream was one world, one life & good hearted souls..

IMAGINE----What the world could accomplish with this type of mind set...


Timberwolf

 

actually I can agree with you for the most part, we all have differences in how we see things. I might try and argue my points but in the end I'm not going to beat you up becuse you don't see things exactly my way.

 

If anyone studies in depth what Islam really is, they wouldn’t equate it like you just did with being a religion like any of the other religions. Although Muslims claim Islam is a religion, it is more similar to Fascism, Nazism, Communism, and other totalitarian mind control ideologies but it incorporate some religious aspects to compel its adherents to be more devout, loyal, and fervent to its ideology. As a matter of fact, it would be far more accurate to classify and consider Islam as being a cult and especially a death cult since it inculcates its adherents to love death more than they love life.

You see the word Islam in Arabic means to submit and in Islam all adherents are required to submit to the will of Allah at the same time that they must also surrender their own free will. Thus, a Muslim is forbidden from exercising his or her own free will, as exercising one’s freedom of conscience is considered to be blasphemous.

Therefore, a Muslim who exercises his or her own freedom of conscience to apostatize from Islam, for instance, is supposed to be executed. Or a Muslim who exercises his or her own freedom of conscience to question the words in the Koran, which is considered to be the immutable and uncreated will of Allah as delivered by Muhammad, Allah’s final messenger, is considered to be blasphemous, and is also an executable offense. However, in both circumstances a Muslim must be given the opportunity first to repent and then if they refuse, they will be executed.

However, curiously and very revealingly to outsiders there is one exception to this rule. If a Muslim blasphemies Muhammad, the holy prophet, as opposed to blaspheming Allah (God), he or she doesn’t get their one chance to repent and is to be executed without exception.

Thus, if Muslims blasphemy the holy prophet Muhammad as opposed to Allah (God) the punishment curiously is more severe, which you would think should be a dead give away to Muslims, but apparently the impulse to be a slave to Allah is so strong that Muslims never question it.

In any event, the worldwide Muslim riots over the Muhammad cartoons were a clear illustration of this curious aspect of Islam, as Muhammad is the uswa hasana, the perfect model and excellent example for emulation, and the main problem with this aspect of Islam is that Muhammad was completely obsessed with killing or subjugating non-Muslim kafirs.

Hence, with all due respect your attempt to morally equate Islam with other religions and denominations with those acts of Islamic terrorism that took place at Fort Hood with the adherents of those other religions and denominations is not only exceedingly lame but it is also ludicrous as well. As it is primarily only Muslims exclusively that are using their religious texts and tenants to justify their many thousands of acts of Islamic terrorism taking place not only over here in America but also all around the world. Therefore, your attempt to use the acts of that Islamic terrorist at Fort Hood to denigrate and condemn all religions I’m sorry is not applicable or valid with all due respect.

In any case, even after almost a week since the Fort Hood atrocity occurred it appears that the powers that be are still trying there best to attribute these acts of Islamic terrorism to anything and everything else but what it really was, at the same time that they are also far more concerned about preventing a backlash against Muslims than ensuring that something like this tragedy never happens again. Thus, we can expect more Islamic terrorist attacks inside this country to occur in the future as we move forward.

I mean it’s clear that General Casey, the army chief of staff, couldn’t be more of a blind politically correct moonbat, and it is very sad to see that our military, like every other institution in America also, has now been fully hijacked and co-opted by the left. Lord help us all!

 

Glad Hand,
One can look at Christianity the same way, their goal is to make you more devout, loyal, believe, faithful, and so on, all religions have this same goal.. In the past they have all used violence to get what they want.
Judism believes a wife should be submissive as does Christianity, now granted in this day and age some have relaxed on those beliefs but none the less they are still practiced by many across the world so I have to disagree with you Islam is a religion..

I am not educated in islam nor do I care to waste my free time looking into it as, "it is what it is" and life is to short to worry about others that you have no control over. We will never ever be able to completely control the terrorist activity that occurs in our world on a daily basis and has for many centuries, in one form or another.
My educational background is in hospitality services so we really did not delve into the teachings of the worlds religious beliefs or backgrounds, however I kind of have to think that since Islam has been around since the 6th century it can not be ruled as fascism ,nazism, or any other type of ism for that matter. The word fascism has not even been around for a hundred years.

Just like every other religion you have different sects, Liberals, in betweeners and fundelmentalist wackos. The terriorist being part of the wacko group, they are no different then the Westboro Baptist Church minus the violence. However one can argue that Westboro preaches violence and condones it as well. You can argue you're points to me until you are blue in the face I won't care. Islam is a religion and has been since the 6th century long before anyone coined the words fascism, nazism, or communism.

I disagree with the docterine of their core beliefs just as I do Catholics, Christians, or any other type of organized religion. Seperation of the human race has lead to the decline of humanity and at some point could lead to the decline of our world all together.

Just for the record please show me where I referenced Fort Hood in my post or anything concerning the attack there, as the way I read my post it has nothing to do with what happend at Fort Hood and everything to do with religion. A Blanket Statement concerning religion. So using the same philosophy you used to interept my post I could surmise from you're post that you would be very happy if the United States completely wiped out the entire population of Isalm regardless of their sects?, Just exterminate them all; is that your stance? I just want to make sure before I have to comment on the simalarities of you're beliefs and Hitler's beliefs.
The lord wont help us, it is up to us as humans to help ourselves and to make the right choices in life.

Timberwolf



Timberwolf

 

Very apparently you are obviously as ignorant of Christianity as you are of Islam. I’m sorry but your miserable attempt to denigrate all religions for of the acts of Islamic jihadists is about as idiotic and unhinged as it gets.

It’s very obvious to me that like the most fervent in your face bible thumpers, your fanatical leftwing zealotry for secularism is equally as fanatical and obsessive when it comes to attacking and the denigration of all things Christianity in response to attacks that were perpetrated by Muslims.

Not to mention that your reflexive reaction to demonize and vilify Christianity at the mere hint of Islam is classic trademark fanatical leftwing secularist behavior. Indeed, the more the Muslims commit acts of Islamic terrorism around the world, the more you fanatical leftwing secularist bible demonizers pillory and denigrate Christianity and Christians.

I for one would like to know how it is all you leftwing secularists can all be inculcated and pre programmed so effectively as to perfectly conform and respond all together like mind-numbed robots in perfect three part harmony that way. It’s a very hilarious phenomenon, but at the same time a very ubiquitous one.

I never said or even suggested that Islam is monolithic. In fact there is much diversity within and among the various sects of Islam. However in Islam there are four major schools of Islamic jurisprudence that together hold sway over all of the various divisions and sects within Islam and on the imperative to make the world sovereign for Allah via the imposition of Sharia, all of those four major schools of Islamic jurisprudence are in perfect unison and unequivocally agree.

Not to mention that all your idiotic assumptions with respect to fundamentalism, fanatics,
wackos, liberals, in betweeners, etc with regard to Islam and Muslims are ludicrous but hilarious at the same time, and only dedicated fanatical leftwing secularists obsessively insist on morally equating Islam with Christianity because of the compulsive obsessive hatred of Christianity that all you leftwing fanatics have been indoctrinated with.

Really? For the record, you have no clue what the core beliefs of Islam are! Nevertheless, for the left Islam is just a convenient excuse used to attack, vilify, and demonize all Christians and Christianity like mind-numbed robots. Yet, if anyone so much as criticizes Islam, whether that criticism is legitimate or not, hand in hand together with your Muslim brethren in arms the left immediately pounces on those criticizing Islam as being intolerant Islamophobes, bigots, or worse. Meanwhile, it’s open season for you fanatical leftwing secularists when it comes to vilifying and demonizing Israel, Judaism, and especially Christianity.

Anyway, the Fort Hood Islamic terrorist attack had nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity, yet you compulsively pounced on it reflexively to launch an attack front and center on Christianity. Thanks for demonstrating exactly how it is all you fanatical leftwing secularists have all been inculcated and preprogrammed to react like mind numbed robots.

Yet like any and all leftwing secularists you fully embrace political correct multiculturalism and celebrate cultural diversity, which are both forms of cultural communism with the entire purpose being to hideously divide, balkanize, and ultimately destroy our society from within.

For the record you insinuated it. It was in a thread ostensibly about the attack that took place at Fort Hood and you used the occasion and your post as an opportunity to launch an obsessive and compulsive attack against Christianity like all you fanatical leftwing secularists have been inculcated and preprogrammed instinctively to react. It was hilarious, but very classic!

By the way it is your post and not you're post. Anyway, you would surmise that but then again you would be wrong as always. I actually believe a policy of containment and separation from the Dar al Islam is a much better course of action to pursue.

Nevertheless, I didn’t resort to insinuating you are like Mao or Stalin like you did with me regarding Hitler, who was a leftist, by the way, but indeed I could have. Nonetheless, I would still like to know what exactly is contained in that post of mind that could remotely be considered Hitler like?

 

Gladhands statements are not "opinions" they are facts. People are going to continue to whistle past the graveyard until the mushroom cloud.

 

"it is what it is" is a nice sentiment. That is until the Islama-Fascists chop your head off or blow you up for not converting and getting on your knees 7 times a day.

 

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