Well, before they invented the remote we had our women to change the channel for us. :rofl: Now let's not pick on NASCAR. It is just a bunch of boys who like to have a little fun. Of course, it was better racing on the streets with the cops in pursuit. :eek2:

 

Time to get my 2 cents in here???

I read a news article that one of the "clerics" in one of the Islamic countries stated that the attack at Ft Hood was completely within the Islamic Religion, because it was the Americans that brought war to their country. They seem to forget the reason for the wars was an Islamic group to begin with. 9-11 was not made up, and was not a ploy of the Bush Administration. Thousands of innocent people were killed by an Islamic group. According to their own belief, that would justify the war they are so strongly against. I suggest that the attack at Ft Hood is a parallel to someone that willfully commits murder, than claims temperary insanity. I believe he decided to follow a jahid of his own, and now is trying to get something like insanity to try to cover his own butt. And, one of the clerics stating that the attack is justified on the basis that Americans brought the war to their country, without taking into account the attack on our country that brought it all about should tell the whole world a great deal about their beliefs. An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth, and if the hand steals, cut off the hand, should give us every right to turn the attack back on them. "ALLAH BE PRAISED, the Americans have been attacked, and thousands of them are dead. ALLAH BE PRAISED." But when the attacks and deaths are brought back to them, OH, THAT IS SO WRONG. I don't buy it.

And, to spare the innocent... I don't really buy this either. About the only ones that are innocent are the women. Their law nearly prohibits women from thinking for themselves. But, I don't believe that all the women are innocent either. Can't tell you how much there is to salvage, but I really don't think there's a whole lot. Even the children are indoctrinated at an early age. Try to reverse the brainwashing of the masses. In one sense, GOD may have had the right idea around 2845 BC. Drowned them all and start over.

 

I believe you can add those also....lol

 

Naaa, I want the hard stuff, like a tattoo on the rocks!!! Rum that is....lol

 

One thing the women's movement wanted to address is being able to do the same job as well as a man. We all have equal rights in this country but we don't necessarily have equal abilities. I think there are some things that women do better than men and other things that men can do better than women. Before the women's movement men and women had pretty clearly defined roles. I think that worked pretty well. Just look at the mess we have today. Women want to be men and men no longer know their place in the world. Men are no longer men. We have witnessed the feminization of men. :hellno:

 

That has to be about the most sexist paragraph I have ever read. Slaves had pretty clearly defined roles too, Gman. Do blacks no longer know their place since slavery was abolished? WTFeck? :moon:

 

I don't he meant they "knew their place" in a negative sense.

Heck...if you can drink beer, fart, and imagine every woman you see, naked like I can, my hats off to ya!

 

Hmm... that IS setting the bar pretty high :smokin:

 

I think that I struck a nerve there, dobry. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. When I grew up most women stayed at home and took care of the children and the house. The men mostly earned the living. It was a good arrangement. Children were taught values and respect and we didn't have nearly the crime then as we do today. I think that most women do a better job of raising children than men. If that sounds sexist, then so be it. I think history speaks for itself. It worked well for thousands of years. Our real standard of living was actually higher during that time. People had less income but the quality of life was much better for everyone. We have more toys today, but our quality of life is not as high as then. Men treated women with respect and it was reciprocated. With the women's movement men became feminized. Men no longer knew how they should act. I have always been taught to hold the door for women. I still recall the first time a woman held the door open for me. It was very strange. I also remember a woman that I dated many years ago who opened the car door for me. Roles were reversed. Around this time I was also reprimanded by a few women by opening the door for them. They were insulted that I was courteous?? It was a very strange time. I think men are still a bit confused about how they should act around women at times.

There are some things that children learn from their mothers and other things that they learn from their fathers. By the way, we didn't have nearly the divorce rate then as now. It was very rare for people to live together before getting married. Men and women worked together for the good of the family. Many men would come home after working a full time job to work in the garden or fields to feed his family. It was not necessarily an easy life for men or women, but it worked. The women may also work in the fields at times, but her domain was mostly the home. They worked as a team.

Women actually entered the workforce in mass during WWII out of necessity. The men fought in a world war and the women kept the home fires burning and the war machine running. After the war many of them decided to continue working. But it was primarily the women's movement of the 1960's that pushed women out of the homes, away from their children and into the workforce. Many entered, not out of necessity but to "fulfill themselves." Divorce rates escalated and the children were the losers. It changed the look of many families. It became the norm to have 2 fathers and 2 mothers as those who divorced remarried and had additional families. You see, those who had divorced were looked down on prior to the 1960's. It seems that those of us who stay married are the ones who are out of vogue with today's society. Roles are no longer clearly defined. I think we have seen that our society and families have suffered the consequences. Whether you agree with me or not, the women's movement helped to change America. It started with equal pay for equal work and then eased into other areas such as women needing to fulfill themselves and do things for themselves. It became all about ME, ME, ME!!! A society must have structure. Most people went to church on Sunday and many on Wednesday. Men were considered head of the household, but it was really the women who ran things. Women actually lost much of their power in the household with the women's movement. I am not sure most of them even realized it. The women's movement did reference slavery to the home and made many women feel that they were not worthy or have value unless they worked outside of the home and brought home a paycheck. Women used to take pride in having a neat, clean house. Some still do. Yes, things worked much better in this country when men and women had clearly defined roles.

 

Feminist organizations are hypocritical and hateful toward conservative women. How ignorant is that?

I truly miss the family structure and the family form of government.
Women have "gained" in some ways, but those ways would have been a natural progression anyway. What the feminist movement did, was go to radical liberal extremes, and done more harm than good. Today, the feminist movement protects ONLY the women who have liberal beliefs. :roll:

It's not just the feminists either. The liberal media has done far more harm in twisting the minds of liberals and attacking the conservatives out of utter hate and ignorance. It's called propaganda, and liberals drink it like pablum.

Conservatism hasn't really altered much off the foundation. We've allowed improvements, but we are still basically one voice. I see caos in the Liberal camp. They are even eatting their own young. :moon: