Oops. Hoggie! Looks like it might be getting close to personal here. Is it necessary? Can't we just debate the subject? plz

 

Dobry is correct. We can discuss issues without the name calling. Let's attack the position and not the poster.

 

Well, I've given this some thought, and there will be absolutely no apologies from me!

Dobry was the first one to point to the "crazy Christian," followed by Timberwolf. I can handle that knowing, it is typical treatment from liberals to make a Christian up to be "crazy" anytime a Christian mentions Prophesy, or aspects of this part of their belief. Armageddon is a distinct possibility in the Christian belief, and yet people seem to feel it is okay to ridicule Christians these days, for their beliefs. I tried to chuckle it off with Dobry. I gave Timberwolf a very fair chance as well, only he felt it necessary to take it further, as I saw it in relationship to my posts.

There are many reasons why Christianity is a threat to liberal thinking. We've been under attack for a long time, but now the liberals are full on assault, and it comes at whatever expense they see necessary. They need us out of the way, for them to advance their socialist agenda. All you have to do is look at some examples of how Christian women like Sarah Palin, or Carrie Prejean got relentlessly attacked for their beliefs. I won't bother citing hundreds of examples of how Christians are being viciously attacked, in this Country, let alone all over the World. Many evil people want us wiped off the face of the Earth! Any reasonable thinking American, can see for themselves. Right now it is better to be a Muslim in this Country. Liberals are now even stooping so low to give Muslim terrorists, US Citizen rights in the case of the 9/11 mastermind and 4 other murderous thugs, and looking for any excuse to make Maj. Hasan up to be a victim. This liberal thinking is insane.

After the post I made claiming the "crazy Christian" joke is no longer funny, I saw what I felt was a veiled attack. I felt the timing was not by chance, and the implications on purpose. I don't buy the hidden tactics and (spin-spin) no lines were crossed. I saw enough outrageous distortions of my God and Faith, and don't appreciate the liberal spin. If someone wants to discuss their religion, that is fine, but everything in context here was not about that, in my opinion. We all know enough not to cross certain lines here with each other. That gets brought up to the limit of just short sometimes, and we all know it!
Timberwolf even admitted he like to "toy" with people.

I'm sick of this liberal open season on Christians, in whatever veiled or otherwise attacks. I didn't start this, and escalated it in fair progression, and I ended up crossing lines, which I will not apologize for. I will do it again if anyone utters anything about my religion I find inappropriate, even if that makes me unwelcome here or down the street.

 

+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1…and on and on and on.

Gloves were off but well said.

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Now, let’s eliminate the religious discussion. It’s getting a little too heated to effectively moderate.

 

Thanks Twilight!...and I agree.
I've bit my tongue to shreds lately. :block:

 

I guess they are still investigating? I haven't heard much about it. Is Hasan still in the hospital? It shouldn't take 10 minutes to convict that whipper snapper.

 

Hmm... My comment about being ripe for alien take over wasn't a crazy Christian comment so much as it was in reference to disarming. If you took it as a "crazy Christian" comment, then The "peanut gallery" comment about bombing all the Muslims is more of a reference to the sort of thing that went on with Orientals in this country after Pearl Harbor. That wasn't a crazy Christian comment either.

ALSO, neither comment was a personal attack on anyone. I respect a person's right to state their beliefs and freely do so. What I do have a problem with is the personal attacks. Name calling isn't debating or stating beliefs whatsoever. It outright sucks.

 

Dobry,
I still view your response as I said, yet my beef was not with you. There was a sequence to this, and it did start mildly with some old worn out humor.

I'm not the only Christian really fed up right now, and maybe people need to realize where this is going, not only in this Country, but worldwide.
People are soooooo worried about the poor Muslims in this Country, while Christians are having to learn how to deal with the attacks made against them.
Like I said, it would be better to be a Muslim in America right now, than a Christian.

Like many Christians, I am biting my tongue over the anti-Christian rhetoric. I wish I had some experience dealing with this, but so far my idea of turning the other cheek, is to lean into the punch and hurt the crap out of some liberals fist with my nose.

We all need to step back right now, but frankly, I do not see that being realistic any time soon. Christians are under attack, and we are at War, with even our own American citizens. This is the real issue in my opinion. We are at War...and the liberals do NOT want to admit that. You can not get a liberal to even mouth the word terrorist. They want to take the rights and voice of Christians and give it to the terrorists. This Circus trial set for New York City will do just that...which is just one example of whats going on, and many of us see it for what it really is.


As for GMAN's comment, I disagree with you. In my opinion, that was no "peanut gallery" comment. We are in an undeclared War. It's time to act responsibly, and declare this a War once and for all. Our enemies are coming out of the Muslim community worldwide. They do not wear a uniform, and are illegal combatants, killing innocent civilians. They are both committing acts of War, and Terrorism. They have no rights in any way shape or form, and damn the liberals for giving them any rights and a platform. Our Military better get with the program, and shove the liberal PC nonsense right up the Commander in Chiefs butt for him to use as an artificial spine. This nonsense with Maj. Hasan is a disgrace as well.

Liberals are going to be shocked into reality, after it's too late. Just like they are so happy to ride the Obama train to bankrupt Marxist Amerika, and then wonder what happened.

 

I have to agree with the name calling situation as well, but it is what it is. Most of us are guilty of it at one time or another.
my initial post to you or glad hand did not contain any personal attacks of any sort, you guys took it to that level because you did not agree with my opinions and you felt they were a personal attack on you and christanity while in reality they are just my opinions. In "MY OPINION" that is the stereo typical behavior of most Christians/religious personal I have personaly come in contact with during my life. "Talk The Talk, but fail to Walk The Walk". Reminds me of a sermon I once heard Ted Haggard complete about the evils of homosexuality and drug use in today's America. I disagree with the core beliefs of all Organized Religion as it creates a seperation from others that are not in that particular group. In my mind that is wrong, so I have created my own little religion that works for me. I am not asking you to belong altough you are welcome if you like, I am not asking that you agree, I just don't want the personal attacks for my beliefs. This is the exact reason why nothing gets solved in our Government as everyone is to busy calling the other side idiots and the exact reason why I lable myself dysenfranchised, both sides suck.... Until they can get past the childish attacks on one another nothing will ever be truly right.

Roadhog I don't want an apology from you nor do I expect one you are of no consequence to my life so it is not needed. I in turn am not going to apolgize for my beliefs as well and I will continue to post them on this board just as you are able to do the same. Now that you know you disagree with my core belief cycle you can stay away from my post or responses and not have to worry about getting your dander up over my "Pseudo PC Liberal words"
Just for the record my intial posts were not meant to toy or jab at you and your belief system they were simply my opinions on religion, any sequencial connection you may have conjured up was purely coincidental.

Repectfully,

Timberwolf

 

This would have been an appropriate time to hear from the Muslims condemning this terrorist attack, as well as from President Obama. I still am hearing nothing, but a bunch of progressive liberals having extreme difficulty mouthing one simple word, [terrorist] but they can easily say, victim of harassment and insults because of his Arab background and his faith. It makes me angry that liberals must protect their agenda over truth and justice.

I believe Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is a Jihadist coward and a terrorist. I believe he based his attack upon radical Islamic religious beliefs. I do not care what his crybaby problems are, because none of it gives excuse for his well thought out, and executed brutal attack.

On a related point... I believe that everyone should have a fair trial, including those offenders that have abandoned their humanity.
I like this quote by Judge Roy Bean.

"Mr. Harden, it's my duty to inform you that the larceny of an equine is a capital offense punishable by death, but you can rest assured that in this Court a horse thief always gets a fair trial before he's hung." - Judge Roy Bean

I feel we should hope and pray to protect the Freedoms and Rights of every American citizen, and guest of our Country, individually and as a Nation together, no matter what their personal beliefs, long as they are not our enemy. I'm not seeing any cooperation or leadership, and I'm disgusted by how politicized and PC our military has become.

Long as the Islamic Americans do not condemn radical Islam, and Sharia Law that allows fathers to murder their own daughters on American streets, then I personally am going to have a hard time trusting any of them. Continuing to remain silent as they all did recently at their day of prayer in Washington D.C., then I have to question whose side are they on? They had a perfect opportunity to speak out to America and the world, and they remain silent today.

No I take that back, not silent, actually we have American Muslims praising the Ft. Hood shooting. This video is one that is still up on YouTube.
Some videos were so offensive, they have already been removed.
YouTube - REVOLUTION MUSLIM STREET DAWAH: 06-11-2009