Obama just got blasted out of the water
#51
08-31-2008, 10:27 AM
Originally Posted by GMAN
They vote themselves raises, set up a retirement income from the day they leave office and pick our pockets while they are in office.
Originally Posted by sgreer78
I'm not going to participate in a political discussion. No one is right, and no one is wrong.
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#52
08-31-2008, 10:32 AM
Originally Posted by Colts Fan
Originally Posted by GMAN
They vote themselves raises, set up a retirement income from the day they leave office and pick our pockets while they are in office.
Originally Posted by sgreer78
I'm not going to participate in a political discussion. No one is right, and no one is wrong.
Ooooooooh...That was good........That was really GOOD! :shock:
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#53
08-31-2008, 12:08 PM
Originally Posted by Colts Fan
Originally Posted by GMAN
They vote themselves raises, set up a retirement income from the day they leave office and pick our pockets while they are in office.
Originally Posted by sgreer78
I'm not going to participate in a political discussion. No one is right, and no one is wrong.
I also stated that I've read on this message board, among others, where his name was used as a derogetory towards him. I pointed no finger at any one person for doing so, it was a generalization. I didn't call right wingers rasists either, I called them right wing nut huggers. Work on your reading comprehension. I broke my own rule in posting in this thread, and I'm removing myself from it. Thanks!
#54
08-31-2008, 01:44 PM
Originally Posted by sgreer78
Originally Posted by GMAN
We need to look at real issues rather than skin color or gender. We seem to vote more on personalities than real issues. I haven't heard real issues addressed by candidates in some time. We have some serious problems in this country. I want to see how the candidates will address them and also how they plan on paying for them. I heard Obama talk about a number of programs. We already have record debt and he wants to spend more of our hard earned money. In the real world, when we don't have money to pay our bills we get an extra job or cut down on other things. In government we just print more money. We need to start addressing the size of government. We cannot support the current size of our government. We are already working 1/2 of our work day to pay for it. The time is coming when we will be forced to address the problem of too much government. It has become more oppressive to keep growing and to protect itself. If we reelect another democratic congress and president we are heading toward a country those in my generation and before will likely not recognize in a few years. We have a constitution in this country. I would like to see those we elect learn to read it. If the government limited itself to what was laid out in our original constitution we would not have the deficit we have today. We would have a balanced budget, holding political office would not be a career and people would be responsible for themselves and their families. We would not elect lawyers but average citizens to hold office. They would come and serve for a term or two and go home. The people we elect come to Washington DC and stay. They vote themselves raises, set up a retirement income from the day they leave office and pick our pockets while they are in office. At the very least we need to vote. We need to get involved in political campaigns. We need to get to know those who run for office. We need to hold them accountable once they get elected. It comes down to "WE THE PEOPLE" taking responsibility for ourselves, our families and our country.
 I'm not going to participate in a political discussion. No one is right, and no one is wrong. It's all personal opinion and beliefs. I'm not for or against either of the candidates just yet. Which ever one of them wins can no way in hell be any worse than what we have now. The main thing I like about Obama is that he "says" we we get out of Iraq. I've had too many friends come back screwed up beyond belief at what they've seen and had to do over there. I'd pay more taxes in a heartbeat to know that not one more soldier would be killed there. /my participation in this thread. Have a safe holiday :wink: Most politicians say something about our getting out of Iraq. It is a matter of timing. The president didn't send the troops into Iraq without the approval of congress. The congress has the purse strings. They sent our troops into harms way and then initially failed to give them the tools they needed to protect themselves and to win. It wasn't the president but congress who failed to give them the tools they needed which resulted in many unnecessary deaths. I remember some family and friends sending body armour and steel plating to loved ones for their Humvee. Obama was a member of congress who failed to support the troops. The Democrats played politics with the lives of our troops, just to get back at the president. At some point in an administration's tenure troops will be needed to enforce U.S. policy. I would question whether he would have the will to do what was necessary to be successful. You don't send troops in harms way without the tools to be successful. War is a dirty business. I feel for all those who have had loved ones lost in this conflict. As bad as it is, there were more lost in previous wars. We lost over 58,000 in Vietnam. I believe we lost more than 112,000 per year in WWII. We either fight the war there or on American soil. I prefer fighting there. The last person I would trust to protect this country is Barrack Hussein Obama. Yes, I don't mind using his middle name. It helps to define who he is and where he came from. We are fighting Muslim terrorists and there are those who want to elect a Muslim to the highest office in this country. I know he denies that he is Muslim, but I have my doubts. According to reports that I have read and seen reported, his father was tied to some of those radical groups. He may or may not have the same tendencies. I was willing to give him an opportunity to change my mind. He has failed to do so. And by the way, it has nothing to do with race. I have a problem with him as a person and his views not the color of his skin.
#55
08-31-2008, 02:01 PM
Originally Posted by Nexus
I do not care who Mcain picks for VP he is same old story ...
Voting with Bush 90 % of the time and playing same card Bush played back in 2004 (we need to fight them over there) what a bunch of c.r.a.p :evil: Obama is very smart guy and he can bring change that we need . And as far those who think that a black man can not be a president they need to go to med evil ages and practice witchcraft Voting for the first time and Obama is getting my vote... Obama's "Not Exactly's": This person is more dangerous than any candidate in recent years.... 1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google'Obama Selma' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.) 2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government. 3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had. 4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that....and for more. Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth. 5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man. 6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to..... http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_ Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African 7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office. 4-3-08 Article "Obama was 'quite religious in islam'" http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559 8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset." This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says "Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts." 9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language. 10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons. 11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. 12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine. 13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist. 14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist. 15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first. 16.) Voting "Present" is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES. 17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote. 18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE. 19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE. 20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it. 21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish. 22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came. 23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within. 24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books. 25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill. 26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part. 27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office. 28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them. 29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel. 30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide. 31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time. 32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself. 33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you. 34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it. 35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting. 36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon. 37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time. 38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it "Qui non intelligit aut discat aut taceat" Who does not understand should either learn, or be silent. :!: :!: :!: :idea: :idea: :idea:
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#56
08-31-2008, 08:25 PM
Originally Posted by Orangetxguy
Ummmmmm....McCain is a known cheat and philanderer.....what are the chances he has plans for her??
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#57
08-31-2008, 08:50 PM
Damn from what I read in the newspaper the other day, McCain sure shocked me with this one and is getting my vote for sure! :shock: Palin sure is smoking, Hillary is too sore on the eyes. :twisted:
#58
08-31-2008, 09:01 PM
Originally Posted by Double L
Damn from what I read in the newspaper the other day, McCain sure shocked me with this one and is getting my vote for sure! :shock: Palin sure is smoking, Hillary is too sore on the eyes. :twisted:
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#60
08-31-2008, 09:28 PM
Originally Posted by Nexus
I do not care who Mcain picks for VP he is same old story ...
Voting with Bush 90 % of the time and playing same card Bush played back in 2004 (we need to fight them over there) what a bunch of c.r.a.p :evil: Obama is very smart guy and he can bring change that we need . And as far those who think that a black man can not be a president they need to go to med evil ages and practice witchcraft Voting for the first time and Obama is getting my vote...
Originally Posted by GTR SILVER
let me bring this over here..............(enjoy) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Obama's "Not Exactly's": This person is more dangerous than any candidate in recent years.... "Qui non intelligit aut discat aut taceat" Who does not understand should either learn, or be silent. :!: :!: :!: :idea: :idea: :idea:
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