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Originally Posted by BigDiesel
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
You remember Mondale/Ferraro, don't you? This has been done before! It failed! It will fail again!
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A different era now..... And do you really think the Clintoons are done with Barry Hussein Obama yet.... :lol: :lol: :lol: |
I don't agree that it is a different "era." I don't remember what year that ticket ran, but it was recent enough for my senile mind to remember. :wink:
I could google and check, so as not to sound stupid, but to be honest, I can't remember what year/election that was. Who were they running against? Reagan? Or Bush I? Reagan was UNBEATABLE! He was the great communicator (as was Prez Clinton, IMHO.) Neither could be or WERE beat!
This should underscore what I have always said..... that the important thing in American politics is the ability to communicate with the people of this great country the rationale behind the executive decisions that lead or govern it. And.... although it should NOT be, it is important to "make good video!" I.e: don't look like a dork on T.V! The World is watching, and they expect the American president to be "presentable."
Most Americans are not stupid. We smell B.S. when it is shoveled, and we are willing to sacrifice when given the proper motivation and understanding of the reason. Both Reagan and Clinton were masters of communication. But, I digress.
Ferraro was a trial balloon to see if America was SO intent on breaking the barriers (glass ceiling) that they would elect a ticket JUST because a woman was on it. But, it failed because the ticket, NOR the desire was strong enough to overcome policy and politics.
Today is no different. Hillary is not the nominated candidate because we STILL will not blindly vote for a candidate because they are a minority. We need MORE substance or rationale. It must say something that women are the largest voting block in America, and MORE of them actually turn out to vote in any election, yet.... they didn't vote in large enough numbers for Hillary to put her on the ticket.
No offense intended to anyone of color, but there are not enough blacks in America to account for the nomination of the first Black candidate for the American Presidency.
That leaves one of two possibilities, and sadly... I believe it was the latter. First, is that more Democrats believed Obama was the better choice regardless of the voter's sex (and this MAY be possible.)
The latter is that more men AND women STILL believe that the leader of America and the Free World SHOULD, in fact, be a MAN! ...... regardless of his color. I gave this alot of consideration EARLY in the process, and it has proven true.... or at least the result is evidenciary. That Americans of BOTH sexes and colors were ready for a Black MAN to be president before ANY color "woman." Sorry, but that is what I thought would happen, and whether my suspicions are true or not.... that is what DID happen.
At any rate, I'm not so sure that I agree that this is a different "era." This era has encompassed the decades since the civil rights movement, and is a rightful progression of American thinking. Sure, it was going to take time. Ferraro, as a choice, might have been too soon. Too bad for her! But, someone had to break the glass! And, I would say that as a strategy, it worked! This year, only a few years hence, the ONLY two viable choices for the Democrats was between one of two minorities! And, if we should win..... the next President will BE one!
The only difference I see in the "ERA," is that stodgy old conservative bigots no longer have a stranglehold on this country or its politics. Win or lose this go around, notice has been SERVED.
But, that has no bearing on the fact that "using" a woman out of nowhere on the GOP ticket will have little or no effect on the National election, and will only be seen for what it is! A cheap trick at best, and a slap in the face of Women's Suffrage at worst.
I had alot of respect for McCain UNTIL this moment! Now, I see that failing to satisfy the ultra conservatives with his OWN policies, he has stooped to "pandering" for the women's vote, hoping to split them and gain advantage. Politics at its WORST!
A man that would do that has no more scruples than our current Totalitarian leader! Win at any cost. Cheat where necessary. Rule by stolen authority without regard to popular vote, and..... in the great tradition of the royalty we fought and died for our freedom against, utter the infamous words.... "let them eat cake!" :roll:
Here's another "catch phrase" from the recent ERA of world politics..... "The Second Russian Revolution." After years of Totalitarian rule, the Russian people said, "enough is enough." And to some minor extent, they have gained freedoms there that were unknown for decades!
I am not advocating Socialism over Democracy OR Republicanism. I am saying that the vanishing Middle Class of this great country has had ENOUGH of the oppression of this "government for sale" to the highest bidder! In THAT regard, yes..... it IS a different era!
But, some things never change. Even the most liberal of our citizens (IMHO) are not ready for a woman president, and NONE of us are stupid enough to believe that putting one on the ticket GUARANTEES the vote of the female constituency!
Well..... NONE but the "out of touch," Republican candidate and his so-called "genius" campaign manager! :roll:
I respect John McCain. For MORE than just his service in the Vietnam War. But, he was near LAST in his class at Annapolis (or wherever he went,) and probably failed his "escape and evasion" training. Perhaps, this is why, as a pilot, he managed to FAIL in his mission over Vietnam and got SHOT DOWN! And then, unlike the A.F. pilot shot down over Bosnia, FAILED in his duty at escape and evasion, and was CAPTURED by the V.C!
I'm SORRY that he spent years in the Hanoi Hilton! But, that does NOT make him a HERO in my eyes! (My views on the overuse of the word HERO are well known.)
John McCain is, to the best of my knowledge, an "average" person, pilot, military man, and Senator. And I have often said that "average" people will get you "killed every time!"
And, whereas I believe that our Legislative branch SHOULD be more "average" in their relation to their constituency.... I believe that our Executive Officer (President) should be ABOVE average! I just don't see that in McCain.
I have questions about Obama. But, there is no doubt in my mind that, like Kennedy, Roosevelt (both of them) and Lincoln, the man is ABOVE average in intellect, and as a person. I will hitch my wagon to such a LEADER every time! And I will LIVE with the consequences, be they good or bad.
Obama just got blasted out of the water
