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Old 08-24-2007, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Colts Fan
So hypothetically I could work at another company that pays more but still invest in J Hunt stock right? :wink: Or do you get a good deal on stock options if you work at JB?
Sure, you could do that and wouldnt be a bad idea. But yes, Jb employees get a better deal. We do company stock purchase through our 401k. So the money you use to buy is pre tax. So putting money in stock over here will lower your taxes. Plus you would ge an extra 50% return on up to 6% of your income by putting it in stock as an employee
 
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:33 AM
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Sheepdancer, I PM'd you. Don't know if you got it.
 
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ok before you say ups has not done any thing in five years go figure in the dividen they pay every Q and if reinvested well tell you what your true net would be with ups i see jb has never paid a div. there is more to a stock price than just price per share shown on a ticker tape LOL YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT
 
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Sure you can make some money on dividends, but unless you have 100s of thousands of shares, you arent going to make squat.
So UPS pays about a 2.2% yeild with dividends. OOH GOODIE, I CAN MAKE A WHOLE 2.2%!! Why would I waste my time with 2.2%, I can get a better return than 2.2% with a savings account at a bank.

I dont know where you got that JB doesnt pay dividends.
 
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ok my bad on the divend BUT the company does have a 103.46 million neg. cash flow problem that could be a problem in the long term if not handled right
 
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Old 08-24-2007, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
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Im just a recruiter, I dont make company policy. But I am smart enough to know why we pay rand mcnally miles. Because that is how we charge the customers. Its about compitition for freight. Say "company A" bids for a customers freight. They bid 1.45 per mile @ 1000 Rand Mcnally miles. And then say Company B bids for the same freight at 1100 hub miles....Who do you think gets that customer?
But why is it that some companies like Roehl, CFI, Gordon, and Crete (to name a few) pay Practical Miles for their drivers? Last I looked, all of those companies are still in business. And doing rather well - CFI was just purchased by Conway for $750 million dollars.

Crete started paying practical miles and started paying detention pay right away instead of making the driver wait for it because the old way was 2 of the top reasons drivers gave for quitting on their exit survey, imagine that.. a company that actually cares why you quit..

Why does JB still insist on HHG? Could it be that they're a greedy, rate-cutting McMega hauler? Nahhhhhh.... :lol:

Here is a great idea for you Cold. Since you are so smart and know a better way to run a trucking company than us. Why dont you get busy, start your own company, become a "mega carrier" and pay all your drivers 50cpm at hub miles? If that is a better way run a company, you should knock us off the top pretty quickly.
No thanks. I'll stick with my home everynight LTL job. Leave you to troll the truckstops handing out business cards and logbook rulers on behalf of your beloved employer.
 
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This topic is always interesting to watch,every time the Rand or PC topic comes up. I work at a logistics company,and every day I set up new carriers with contracts and rates.Any time the topic of mileage systems come up with carriers,I will tell them they can use any system they want,but the freight is awarded on a flat rate basis.For example,if a carrier uses PC miler and their bid comes in at $900,and another carrier uses Rand,and their bid comes in at $850,the carrier at $850 will get the freight.I think everyone agrees that it would be nice if we all were on the PC system,but shippers are going to move their freight for the cheapest cost with the best service.
 
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This topic is always interesting to watch,every time the Rand or PC topic comes up. I work at a logistics company,and every day I set up new carriers with contracts and rates.Any time the topic of mileage systems come up with carriers,I will tell them they can use any system they want,but the freight is awarded on a flat rate basis.For example,if a carrier uses PC miler and their bid comes in at $900,and another carrier uses Rand,and their bid comes in at $850,the carrier at $850 will get the freight.I think everyone agrees that it would be nice if we all were on the PC system,but shippers are going to move their freight for the cheapest cost with the best service.
Well, company can bid whatever they want for the contract, just pay the driver for all of the miles they drive. Is that so hard?
 
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cluggy619
Originally Posted by flyindy
This topic is always interesting to watch,every time the Rand or PC topic comes up. I work at a logistics company,and every day I set up new carriers with contracts and rates.Any time the topic of mileage systems come up with carriers,I will tell them they can use any system they want,but the freight is awarded on a flat rate basis.For example,if a carrier uses PC miler and their bid comes in at $900,and another carrier uses Rand,and their bid comes in at $850,the carrier at $850 will get the freight.I think everyone agrees that it would be nice if we all were on the PC system,but shippers are going to move their freight for the cheapest cost with the best service.
Well, company can bid whatever they want for the contract, just pay the driver for all of the miles they drive. Is that so hard?
apparently, it is
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by flyindy
This topic is always interesting to watch,every time the Rand or PC topic comes up. I work at a logistics company,and every day I set up new carriers with contracts and rates.Any time the topic of mileage systems come up with carriers,I will tell them they can use any system they want,but the freight is awarded on a flat rate basis.For example,if a carrier uses PC miler and their bid comes in at $900,and another carrier uses Rand,and their bid comes in at $850,the carrier at $850 will get the freight.I think everyone agrees that it would be nice if we all were on the PC system,but shippers are going to move their freight for the cheapest cost with the best service.
So, because the "lowest bidder" gets the contract....drivers should get the stick?

I would imagine that all of the box freight companies use the same costing for the most part when pricing out loads and contracts.....but yet some of the companies pay their drivers practical miles, while others don't. I think that JB, USX, Covenant, and all the rest could too....but then again....they may never because well....why should they as long as they find "meat for the seat". In fact there really isn't any reason why they can't automatically pay drivers for detention.... especially when they are collecting it. It would certainly be less expensive to pay the driver better than to keep losing them and hiring new ones at what $3500 to $5000 a driver? With 100%+ turnover....seems an awful lot of money is being pissed down a black hole.....
 
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