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#3051
12-14-2007, 02:20 AM
csramsey640, one of the best posts on this 200+ page thread! Thanks for sounding off. Great advice and good examples of how to be successful at TMC.
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#3052
12-14-2007, 03:16 AM
Originally Posted by csramsey640
Actually all people ever talk about is the bad, youll see more rants and raves here than anywhere. Hopefully as for the 800-1000 in a week I can clarify, but you may not like my answer, you too MrGrim.
Why does everyone think that truck driving is simple? That experience doesnt matter, that you dont learn anything. You need to open your eyes. There is a big difference between those who do 500-600 a week, and those who do 1000+ a week. Id be safe to say, those seeing low $$ havent been in a truck too long, matter of fact Ill almost guarantee it. Because those who have, know what to do. That only comes with experience, not driving school. I guess I was lucky, my dad taught me, and he taught me well, now after 5 years flatbed(not a spot on the ass of those like my dad, with 45+years) I see so many who want to whine about low $$, but dont want to do a thing about it, but blame,blame,blame To bring 600 Gross in a week, with 23% newby pay, would mean you brought 2600 to the truck that week, now divide that by the number of days you should have worked, 5, which means you got roughly 5-500 loads, usually the $500 loads average from 100 miles to 300 miles, give or take. So you have ran roughly 1500-2000 miles in a week, there are drivers running that many in 3 days. If your doing a lot of sitting, I d be doing a lot of talking, demanding better miles, and better $$. Thanks! Creek
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#3053
12-14-2007, 04:38 AM
Originally Posted by Creek Jackson
Hey, great post! I was wondering if you could explain the logistics on how to run 1500-2000 miles in 3 days. Thanks! Creek 32% in 2 months, stood there for 2 untill i quit for a better job. i avaraged out $1150 take home. some were bad as low as $511, some were $1425... but i worked my a$$ off, and didn't F around... cheerioos
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#3054
12-14-2007, 05:38 AM
Ok so its all my fault I get it now.My trainer was an O/O and he was and is the man.I have 100% faith that he trained me the way I needed.With that
base I know better than to head out on monday.I did leave on sunday or try to at least.I did drop 5 loads the one week I could run.I dont BS around in truckstops and did my best to catch my break where I was getting unloaded the next morn so I could be first in line.Alot of what you guys say is 100% true and good advice.But if we all understand that the new guys dont know all the correct things to do why bust on me for doing what I thought was right?I did call my FM,Team leader,break down,trainer to try and get things fixed.I leaned on my trainer for help and guidance and he made calls and sent sat msgs to the big people at TMC to no avail.How am I to know the next step with so little time at TMC?I need help and asked for it and some people did try and help just nothing came of it.I like the job and want to do it I just need to be given a little help to get things on track and I will do my best to keep them that way.I am not a fool,at no job do you walk in and get the big bucks on day one.You have to go thru learning steps and get to know the job before that money shows up on its own.I dont care about the money now I just want to work as I know the money will find me as I get better and the season changes.So how do I fix my current problem?
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#3055
12-14-2007, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by csramsey640
Actually all people ever talk about is the bad, youll see more rants and raves here than anywhere. Hopefully as for the 800-1000 in a week I can clarify, but you may not like my answer, you too MrGrim.
To bring 600 Gross in a week, with 23% newby pay, would mean you brought 2600 to the truck that week, now divide that by the number of days you should have worked, 5, which means you got roughly 5-500 loads, usually the $500 loads average from 100 miles to 300 miles, give or take. So you have ran roughly 1500-2000 miles in a week, there are drivers running that many in 3 days. If your doing a lot of sitting, I d be doing a lot of talking, demanding better miles, and better $$. . I don't know exactly the time frame that equal you earning newbie pay ...But 2600 miles and only grossing $600.00 is SHIT if newbie pay is anymore than a few months , Because I made more than that at Werner pulling a dry van at .30 cpm ...So only grossing $600 for 2500-2600 is les less than .25 CPM...Hardly a wage worth talking about ,and certainly not a wage I would put in the same sentence when mentioning a quality company .... I mean 2500-2600 miles and only grossing $600.00 ...C'mon a driver with 6 months in should be making more like $800.gross off just those miles which would be about .32 CPM , But $600.00 is less than .25 CPM ...Now how are you going to spin making less than .25 CPM ,as a quality wage in 2007 ?
#3056
12-14-2007, 09:50 AM
Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
Originally Posted by csramsey640
Actually all people ever talk about is the bad, youll see more rants and raves here than anywhere. Hopefully as for the 800-1000 in a week I can clarify, but you may not like my answer, you too MrGrim.
To bring 600 Gross in a week, with 23% newby pay, would mean you brought 2600 to the truck that week, now divide that by the number of days you should have worked, 5, which means you got roughly 5-500 loads, usually the $500 loads average from 100 miles to 300 miles, give or take. So you have ran roughly 1500-2000 miles in a week, there are drivers running that many in 3 days. If your doing a lot of sitting, I d be doing a lot of talking, demanding better miles, and better $$. . I don't know exactly the time frame that equal you earning newbie pay ...But 2600 miles and only grossing $600.00 is $&!+ if newbie pay is anymore than a few months , Because I made more than that at Werner pulling a dry van at .30 cpm ...So only grossing $600 for 2500-2600 is les less than .25 CPM...Hardly a wage worth talking about ,and certainly not a wage I would put in the same sentence when mentioning a quality company .... I mean 2500-2600 miles and only grossing $600.00 ...C'mon a driver with 6 months in should be making more like $800.gross off just those miles which would be about .32 CPM , But $600.00 is less than .25 CPM ...Now how are you going to spin making less than .25 CPM ,as a quality wage in 2007 ?  ops: ops: ops: :wink: :lol:
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#3057
12-14-2007, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
Originally Posted by csramsey640
Actually all people ever talk about is the bad, youll see more rants and raves here than anywhere. Hopefully as for the 800-1000 in a week I can clarify, but you may not like my answer, you too MrGrim.
To bring 600 Gross in a week, with 23% newby pay, would mean you brought 2600 to the truck that week, now divide that by the number of days you should have worked, 5, which means you got roughly 5-500 loads, usually the $500 loads average from 100 miles to 300 miles, give or take. So you have ran roughly 1500-2000 miles in a week, there are drivers running that many in 3 days. If your doing a lot of sitting, I d be doing a lot of talking, demanding better miles, and better $$. . I don't know exactly the time frame that equal you earning newbie pay ...But 2600 miles and only grossing $600.00 is $&!+ if newbie pay is anymore than a few months , Because I made more than that at Werner pulling a dry van at .30 cpm ...So only grossing $600 for 2500-2600 is les less than .25 CPM...Hardly a wage worth talking about ,and certainly not a wage I would put in the same sentence when mentioning a quality company .... I mean 2500-2600 miles and only grossing $600.00 ...C'mon a driver with 6 months in should be making more like $800.gross off just those miles which would be about .32 CPM , But $600.00 is less than .25 CPM ...Now how are you going to spin making less than .25 CPM ,as a quality wage in 2007 ? ops: ops: ops: :wink: :lol:Ok I see he's talking gross dollars per trip ,and running 1500-2000k miles to earn $600.00 ...I don't see how a driver couldn't average $800.00 1000.00 a week if they really want to ...But then again I have not yet ever worked for TMC , So I really can't speculate on potential earning a driver should or shouldn't be able to obtain.
#3058
12-14-2007, 11:23 AM
Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
Ok I see he's talking gross dollars per trip ,and running 1500-2000k miles to earn $600.00 ...I don't see how a driver couldn't average $800.00 1000.00 a week if they really want to ...But then again I have not yet ever worked for TMC , So I really can't speculate on potential earning a driver should or shouldn't be able to obtain.
ANYONE with a few months "in" should be able to make $800.00 weekly with minimal effort and applying what they learned during training IF they want to.
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#3059
12-14-2007, 01:32 PM
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I know TMC advertises you can make up to 60,000 your first year and some do manage to make that. They advertise in the local papers here and the ad states "come to TMC Transportation and earn 700+ per week." So at least they are up front with what you can expect to make driving for them.
The problem I'm stuggling with is, back in 1985 I drove for a short while due to the fact I was laid off from my present job at Ford Motor Co. Although I did have one of the better trucking jobs, hauling cars for a subsiderary of Ryder, I was making double what they are paying now. And It's hard to understand why the pay has basicly been frozen for twenty years. I always enjoyed driving and thought to myself I might like to do it again one day, but as I said I am struggling with the pay a driver makes these days. I guess if a guy were to drive for a year or so and then maybe look into being an Owner Oper. it may pay off in the long run if he is careful and tries to stay busy. What do you think?
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#3060
12-14-2007, 03:09 PM
Re: tmc
Originally Posted by wild bill
I know TMC advertises you can make up to 60,000 your first year and some do manage to make that. They advertise in the local papers here and the ad states "come to TMC Transportation and earn 700+ per week." So at least they are up front with what you can expect to make driving for them.
The problem I'm stuggling with is, back in 1985 I drove for a short while due to the fact I was laid off from my present job at Ford Motor Co. Although I did have one of the better trucking jobs, hauling cars for a subsiderary of Ryder, I was making double what they are paying now. And It's hard to understand why the pay has basicly been frozen for twenty years. I always enjoyed driving and thought to myself I might like to do it again one day, but as I said I am struggling with the pay a driver makes these days. I guess if a guy were to drive for a year or so and then maybe look into being an Owner Oper. it may pay off in the long run if he is careful and tries to stay busy. What do you think?
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