Blackballing and the DAC Report...
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Here's how I know what Mark and Eric's job, as trainers, were. We [students] received the same weekly schedule as what they did. And, we were told that it had to be followed. Yet, both of them chose not too. The "X" on the sheet even shows that we received the schedule in Orientation.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]1133[/ATTACH] As for the road test, we went approximately 15 miles south of Inver Grove Heights, MN, on Hwy. 52, went through 2 small towns, made a couple of turns, picked up a trailer, and headed back to the Terminal, with barely any traffic on the road. Therefore, that wasn't even really a road test. There was nothing even that remotely challenged the skill level of having to control the tractor/trailer, except for having to keep the tractor in the same lane. That' all there was. Majority of the items on the two-page road test sheets weren't even used. The items were just checked off by the person doing the road test. I was not required to do the full inspection or any of the major equipment checks or anything. Those sheets will be added, here, later. [ATTACH=CONFIG]1134[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]1135[/ATTACH] Last edited by lilchemmaster; 10-07-2012 at 07:00 PM.
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Here's how I know what Mark and Eric's job, as trainers, were. We [students] received the same weekly schedule as what they did. And, we were told that it had to be followed. Yet, both of them chose not too. The "X" on the sheet even shows that we received the schedule in Orientation.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]1133[/ATTACH] As for the road test, we went approximately 15 miles south of Inver Grove Heights, MN, on Hwy. 52, went through 2 small towns, made a couple of turns, picked up a trailer, and headed back to the Terminal, with barely any traffic on the road. Therefore, that wasn't even really a road test. There was nothing even that remotely challenged the skill level of having to control the tractor/trailer, except for having to keep the tractor in the same lane. That' all there was. Majority of the items on the two-page road test sheets weren't even used. The items were just checked off by the person doing the road test. I was not required to do the full inspection or any of the major equipment checks or anything. Those sheets will be added, here, later. I have to finish getting those slated for uploading.
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#73
I'm just glad this driver is OFF the road. Not that I'm a fan of DAC but in this case it appears to be doing what it was intended to. I believe this drivers attitude will take care of the rest.
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#74
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Everyone here is believing that the reason you were "unprepared" "untrained" and got fired was because the trainers and the person who gave you the check ride didn't mark a checklist enough to satisfy you... Dude.. you're not even smart enough to realize how foolish you're making yourself look.
I suppose it would be much more reasonable to have the trainer/team driver be given the keys to a truck, so, that after the trainer/team driver gets out of the bunk, at the end of the "training period", the student can just climb in and go. That would save the company so much more money. They wouldn't even have to pay for someone to ride around for a half-hour and pretend that they're conducting a "road test". Considering, all items were checked, even though, the majority weren't even tested on. That does sound like something Swift would do, just like handing out CDLs without the people actually passing the knowledge test. Yep, I did hear something about that. Sounds like something that you'd advocate for, as well. Considering, you don't seem to think that the "trainers" should have to actually do anything to properly teach someone, but still get paid for the student's miles just because they're in the truck. That is ignorance and stupidity at its finest. I did add the two "road test" checklists above, as I said I would. Last edited by lilchemmaster; 10-07-2012 at 07:34 PM.
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What attitude? Just like the rest, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Which, seems to be common around here. Must all be drinking the same Kool-aid.
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Yeah, I guess, you're right. It does sound kind of foolish to think that a company would want to use a list of items, pertaining to knowledge and skills that were supposed to be learned during training to test a person on, in order evaluate their ability to properly drive a truck. This way, they can make sure they learned what they were supposed to, during the training period, and can effectively be out on the road.
I suppose it would be much more reasonable to have the trainer/team driver be given the keys to a truck, so, that after the trainer/team driver gets out of the bunk, at the end of the "training period", the student can just climb in and go. That would save the company so much more money. They wouldn't even have to pay for someone to ride around for a half-hour and pretend that they're conducting a "road test". Considering, all items were checked, even though, the majority weren't even tested on. That does sound like something Swift would do, just like handing out CDLs without the people actually passing the knowledge test. Yep, I did hear something about that. Sounds like something that you'd advocate for, as well. Considering, you don't seem to think that the "trainers" should have to actually do anything to properly teach someone, but still get paid for the student's miles just because they're in the truck. That is ignorance and stupidity at its finest. I did add the two "road test" checklists above, as I said I would.
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Wow boy.. you're just thick.... So precluding your actually running into something during the road test, are you saying that you were demonstrating such poor driving skill and lack of general knowledge to the person road testing you that had they checked off every single event on the list that you would have failed? You're a real piece of work! And the koolade flavor that people "around here" commonly drink is called experience.. its got a certain flavor that people like you never get to taste.. It's rather satisfying..
That's exactly what the person giving the road test did, when he checked every box without testing each-and-every one of those.
#78
There are no"federal"documents for training. Unless he was qualified to give the road test to get your CDL,and then he would be licensed by the state,not swift.
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Have you ever wondered why it seems that the problems in your life is a resault of other people? Why do think every one is wrong but your right? Did all the kids in your class get gold satrs everyday? Was all the kids winners cause there is no losers? Grow up and face the facts! LIFE IS NOT FAIR! BTW are you an Obama supporter?
#80
Dangit! I was REALLY enjoying reading this thread today. Somewhere along the way, I noticed that everyone was talking about the blame game, but NO ONE had mentioned Obama!
Had to go and screw it up didn't ya, repete?
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