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Old 12-29-2010, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tracer
I thought this was only allowed for US drivers who travel in Canada where they can take a LTL shipment going between 2 points in Canada, as long as their "main" shipment was going to US. Are you sure about this, rank? I don't want to spend the New Year Day in prison. .
What's good for US drivers should be good for Canadian drivers too. And, while I've never fought the battle in international court......according to everything I've read, it's legal as can be. Also, you are permitted to carry US to US freight on your northbound trip too.....and on your DH to PU your northbound load.

below is a cut and paste from this link http://www.highwaystarmagazine.com/cabotage.pdf

4. Use of Canadian-based Vehicles for Domestic Transportation. Generally, the use of
Canadian-based vehicles for domestic movement of merchandise is prohibited. There is
one exception. A domestic movement incidental to the immediate prior or subsequent
engagement of a vehicle in international transportation is allowed. Incidental is defined
as Ain the general direction of an export move or as part of the return movement to their
base country@. It includes a movement en route to the pick-up of an export move. For
example, a Toronto, ON-based carrier transports merchandise originating in Toronto and
terminating in Miami, FL. The vehicle can then be used to pick up merchandise in Miami
for delivery to St Louis, MO (a domestic move) where an export move will be picked up
for delivery to Canada. The movement of merchandise from Miami to St Louis is
considered incidental to the immediate prior or subsequent engagement of such vehicle in
international transportation. The Canadian-based vehicle can also transport a domestic
move in the general direction of an export move and then immediately return empty to
Canada.
 

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Old 12-29-2010, 03:00 AM
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I seem to recall there's two departments of the US government with jurisdiction, although I cannot remember the two. CBP is probably one of them. Anyways one says it's legal to do that the other doesn't.
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by allan5oh
I seem to recall there's two departments of the US government with jurisdiction, although I cannot remember the two. CBP is probably one of them. Anyways one says it's legal to do that the other doesn't.
below is the disclaimer attatched to the above link:

The following document only paraphrases the regulations on cabotage of the Immigration
and Naturalization Service and the U.S Customs Service. The contents may not be relied
upon as a substitute for the official regulations. Although the FMCSA makes every effort to
assure that the information provided is complete an accurate, it is not intended to take the
place of published regulations of the Immigration and Naturalization Service or the U.S.
Customs Service. For questions on those regulations, contact the U.S Customs Service, Office
of Regulations and Rulings, 202-927-1327 or Immigration and Naturalization Service, Office
of Inspections, 202-514-3019. You may also contact them through the link to their website.
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 04:16 AM
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so I grabbed the highest paying load I saw


And there lies the problem, you are looking at the large money and not the whole picture, a shorter mileage load would almost always pay better per mile.

Nevada is another black hole for open deck, as is most of the Pacific northwest. Have you looked to see whats coming out of there? and the rates?

Remember its $$$ not miles that you should be after, unless you just want to sight see.
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 05:04 AM
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I remember reading that US immigration does not allow canadian drivers to move any freight point to point in the USA.

Those rules that were listed above were for canadian EQUIPMENT, but they must have a driver who is legally allowed to work in the USA

The only legal way for a canadian driver to haul point to point in USA is to have a green card or work visa or be a citizen
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 05:23 AM
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I remember my old company saying we couldn't even take an empty trailer point to point in the states.
 
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Originally Posted by tracer
Just booked a load from the ferry! $6,968 to Landstar. I'm going to Nevada baby! Loading in Quebec the day after tomorrow. Gotta love Internet.
You're going to the Island of Las Vegas. That was a big slogan in their ads during the 1980's.
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 05:56 AM
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You can not run ANYTHING from point to point in the US if you are a canadian driver. This was put forth in the NAFTA agreement, and will land your butt in jail. Challenger (along with it's other 100 company names it runs) and TransX have bought terminals in Detroit. Their drivers PU in Texas or where-ever and drop the US based loads at the terminal and one of their US drivers then deliveres it to Michigan/Ohio or where-ever it was going. They have a HUGE lawsuit right now they are fighting with the US Govt about this....... I'd say steer clear.
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Steel Horse Cowboy
You can not run ANYTHING from point to point in the US if you are a canadian driver. This was put forth in the NAFTA agreement, and will land your butt in jail. Challenger (along with it's other 100 company names it runs) and TransX have bought terminals in Detroit. Their drivers PU in Texas or where-ever and drop the US based loads at the terminal and one of their US drivers then deliveres it to Michigan/Ohio or where-ever it was going. They have a HUGE lawsuit right now they are fighting with the US Govt about this....... I'd say steer clear.
I can't speak for Trans x but I do know for a fact that Challengers Canadian drivers do not do this.MCX in Detroit is partly owned by Challenger and all the trucks at MCX run only in the US,are all owner operators and US citizens.

Canadian drivers will load in Canada and drop at the Detroit yard for an MCX driver to deliver in the US, but they will not load in the US and drop in Detroit in order for an MCX driver to deliver in the US.
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bikerboy
I remember reading that US immigration does not allow canadian drivers to move any freight point to point in the USA.

Those rules that were listed above were for canadian EQUIPMENT, but they must have a driver who is legally allowed to work in the USA

The only legal way for a canadian driver to haul point to point in USA is to have a green card or work visa or be a citizen
That's right. A Canadian driver(citizen) cannot run point to point in the US....PERIOD.
 

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