[BigDiesel]

Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago

And your argument holds no water whatsoever.

I suppose you also tell your employees to fuel your trucks at wherever the price is the highest.

Yet again you are wrong......:lol2:

We use CFN and Pacific Pride, plenty of savings with either.... also my drivers are issued a company AMEX.......:zzz: including another driver I am bringing on, so I can get out of the truck.................... Its funny.... didn't need to advertise the opening for a run of the mill dweller either....

Again it comes back to rates, revenue and net profit........ Not the cash flow mirage most dwellers think is profit.....

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by BigDiesel

We use CFN and Pacific Pride, plenty of savings with either

If you set your rates high enough you wouldn't need to dance thru those hoops....

[marylandkw]

Let's say you have 3 trucks. Each truck runs 100,000 miles a year. Each truck gets 6mpg. Lets say with some smart planning you can get 20 cents off a gallon of fuel. That 20 cents will be 100% pure profit of $10,000. You would clearly have to be a fool to think that matters. I mean what owner in their right mind would want an extra 10k in YOUR pocket?

I have not used a load board or a broker in over a decade nor am I leased on with anyone.I have my own authority and own contracts. I do agree with you that it is all about rates revenue and net profit but fail to understand where you think fuel does not play into that. Profit is a variable that YOU can control and I would argue should.

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by marylandkw

Let's say you have 3 trucks. Each truck runs 100,000 miles a year. Each truck gets 6mpg. Lets say with some smart planning you can get 20 cents off a gallon of fuel. That 20 cents will be 100% pure profit of $10,000. You would clearly have to be a fool to think that matters. I mean what owner in their right mind would want an extra 10k in YOUR pocket?

I have not used a load board or a broker in over a decade nor am I leased on with anyone.I have my own authority and own contracts. I do agree with you that it is all about rates revenue and net profit but fail to understand where you think fuel does not play into that. Profit is a variable that YOU can control and I would argue should.

Once again, you are 100% correct.

[GMAN]

A friend of mine just leased on to a carrier and is getting a good discount on his fuel at TA. He saved about $0.40 or $0.50/gallon at one stop.

[rank]

Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago

If you set your rates high enough you wouldn't need to dance thru those hoops....

hee hee

[tweety bird]

We were leased to a carrier that offered fuel pricing a few years ago. The savings were determined by the number of truck from that carrier (o/o or company driver- didn't matter) at THAT truck stop. Not at any TA or any Petro, but if 5 trucks fueled at the SAME TA that day they got a good discount on the fuel.

Flying J offered no discount.

When we left that company and leased to a carrier with no fuel program, we found that Flying J tended to have the best pricing when you don't get a group rate. Not always- you can find a spot here or there where another truck stop has a better fuel price and the fuel prices being so high kind of made things even out a bit.

We've been pretty well dedicated Flying Jers for years now.

A little off topic, but still.

[GMAN]

I remember when I was leased to Landstar several years back that they offered some discounts at TA if you used their fuel card. At that time I came out about as well at the Flying J even after my fuel discounts. Perhaps they are getting deeper discounts now than they did back then. We didn't have a fuel surcharge to cushion the high cost of fuel. I don't care much for Flying J but they do seem to offer the best fuel prices for the owner operator or smaller operator. Flying J does offer discounts on fuel based upon the number of gallons you purchase during the course of a month.