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Old 12-08-2007, 09:48 PM
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...last time i checked there is no such thing as a backhaul.
Unfortunately, try telling that to a big carrier and they laugh at the notion. The big guy's business model doesn't work near as well for us little guys. CHR is set up to service the big boys business model.
Yep, and it does suck for the O/O's that just need some work. My job would be a hell of a lot easier if we had good rates.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:51 PM
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I agree with no_worries (what a surprise ) and I hope this guy keeps posting. I started out with that other guy hauling for mostly CH and I didn't like how it was going so I left and have only hauled a couple for them since. It's easy to blame others, but really who's fault is it? CH, the Jb hunts who take the cheap loads to get back to their customers or the dumb drivers working for peanuts?

If I don't like a situation I won't comply that's all there is to it. I started with a big company realized that mostly what that Coldfrostymug says on the other forums is true and that it was abuse and so I left.

And I don't like the Nuremberg defense either with saying I'm only doing what I'm told or what everyone else is doing.

CH Robinson is a big international company and 50 years from now will probably be doing the same thing. I hate cheap freight too but things are what they are so I feel the best things is it figure out how to work this system instead of seeking the impossible that the system will change for us. And again when I say things are what they are I don't mean that I just shrug my shoulders and go along. If I don't like something I will not comply. I don't control the world only my own actions.

I see the answer that he gave Rank that the best thing would be to buy a dry van as that is what mostly their freight is, and that most of their freight is moved by the big companies. Well that might be the best thing to move his freight or to run a big company but that tells me not to buy a dry van and try and compete with the Swifts of the world.

Of course everyone here knows I am new and am very far from a know-it-all and always seek to learn things so those are just my thoughts.
And while I don't deny I am probably running cheaper than a lot here, I put it right out there cause I realize that and look for advice on how to improve.
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And while I don't deny I am probably running cheaper than a lot here, I put it right out there cause I realize that and look for advice on how to improve.
Everyone of us O/O's started out by hauling cheap... Then the lightbulb went on.
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Old 12-08-2007, 11:11 PM
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And while I don't deny I am probably running cheaper than a lot here, I put it right out there cause I realize that and look for advice on how to improve.
Everyone of us O/O's started out by hauling cheap... Then the lightbulb went on.


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Old 12-08-2007, 11:53 PM
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I see the answer that he gave Rank that the best thing would be to buy a dry van as that is what mostly their freight is, and that most of their freight is moved by the big companies....... that tells me not to buy a dry van....
You got it man.
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Old 12-08-2007, 11:57 PM
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Cheap is different things to different people. Fuel, Maitenance & depreciation/ammortization are similar for everyone. So it depends on what yo need to live.
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. Our big customers will send us other companies rate matrix's that haul directly for them. Like Hunt, Celedon etc and those guys are getting a lot better rates than we are. Maybe its because they drop trailers and commit to x amount of freight.
Why would they send you the rate matrix if it shows them paying more to them and not you? What exactly is a rate matrix? I assume it's what's paid for various lanes etc but just a clarification please. Also you said you get emails from the people in the big companies that tell you their available trucks and where they want to go and you match them up. Is there negotiating on the rate?

Thanks.
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[quote="merrick4"][quote="CHRBROKER32"]. Our
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Cheap is different things to different people. Fuel, Maitenance & depreciation/ammortization are similar for everyone. So it depends on dead miles and how little you are willing to make to own that truck.
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