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Old 08-11-2012, 05:11 PM
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so called assault weapons have allround use,in the venison heydays in New Zealand (1960s and 70s) on the choppers we used the browning fn 308 then ar15 223 and swedish sig 308 .all really millatry assault weapons, mini14 was allso used
 
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When they add "assault" to a gun it denotes negative images. So, the communists like to add it to most discussions about guns.
 
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Old 08-12-2012, 03:52 AM
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repete said:

Back in Clinton's day it was suggested that any firearm that had been used by the military should be banned, that would have included bolt action rifles.
That would have also included Gen. Custer's Colt revolver and the more modern Colt 45. Clinton was a superb student of history, but I'm sure he was thinking only of more modern military weapons. In fact... I have to question whether HE ever said "had been" or did he say "was?" Of course, some NRA type with a passing grade in H.S. English would have pointed out that "was" has both a past tense and present tense application.

This is why civilized discussions on gun "regulation" are so difficult. Gun advocates always wants to split hairs to the point that original intent and common sense are obliterated by obscure reference and smothered by a blanket interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. Then they feed their illogical conclusions to the voting public in the form of a horror movie.

An AR15 is an AR15 thats all it is, it's not a civilian version of an M16 it a wanna be!
Actually, that's not true. From WIKI:

The AR-15 was first built by ArmaLite as a selective fire assault rifle for the United States armed forces. Because of
financial problems, ArmaLite sold the AR-15 design to Colt. The select-fire AR-15 entered the US military system as the M16
rifle. Colt then marketed the Colt AR-15 as a semi-automatic version of the M16 rifle for civilian sales in 1963.
Have you ever looked at the two side by side? The biggest and most importent difference is in the lower reciever, the M16 has select fire (auto/brust) and semi the AR has only semi.
I've seen both. What you call the biggest differene, is actually almost imperceptible to the eye. Point being... the "selective fire" option is what makes one an assault RIFLE and the other just an assault WEAPON.

Kits to convert are NOT AVAILABLE and if a gun can be easily converted it is illegal under BATFE rules.
If I am/was wrong about this, I apologize. I can only say that I have always been told that "conversion" was easily accomplished... whether by "kit" or by individual part. But that is irrelevant to the discussion of assault WEAPONS.

AAHH!! You do realize that there is a deference between an assualt weapon and an assault RIFLE? Assault rifles ARE capable of full auto fire. I know that small tidbit of info dosn't matter to newsies and political types but it should be noted!
Not sure if you meant that as a question or a compliment but, yes... I do. I may have accidentaly used the wrong term in the past and I will be more careful in the future. But again... irrelevant as the AWB addressed only "semi's." Again from WIKI:

The term assault weapon is a United States political and legal term used to describe a variety of semi-automatic firearms
that have certain features generally associated with military assault rifles. The 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban, which
expired on September 13, 2004, codified the definition of an assault weapon. It defined the rifle type of assault weapon as
a semiautomatic firearm with the ability to accept a detachable magazine containing more than 10 rounds, and two or more of
the following:

Folding or telescoping stock
Primary pistol grip
Forward grip
Threaded barrel (for a muzzle brake or a suppressor, commonly called a silencer)
Barrel shroud

The assault weapons ban did not restrict weapons capable of fully automatic fire, such as assault rifles and machine guns,
which have been continuously and heavily regulated since the National Firearms Act of 1934 was passed. Subsequent laws such
as the Gun Control Act of 1968 and the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 also affected the importation and civilian
ownership of fully automatic firearms, the latter fully prohibiting sales of newly manufactured machine guns to non-law
enforcement or SOT (special occupational taxpayer) dealers.
These "characteristics" are what define an assault weapon (according to the gov't.) They generally conform to the definition "I" gave in the earlier thread with one important exception. What I said about "suppressive fire and little resistance" can be found only in the original definition of an assault RIFLE.... again, from WIKI:

The term assault rifle is a translation of the German word Sturmgewehr (literally "storm rifle", as in "to storm a
position"). The name was coined by Adolf Hitler[3] to describe the Maschinenpistole 43, subsequently renamed Sturmgewehr 44.
If you are still splitting hairs between a semi or fully auto firing option, you are missing MY point, and that of the gov't. If you further want to muddy the waters by suggesting (or designing) a weapon fitting some parts of the above description, but which can throw stones or knives with the frequency, distance, accuracy and deadly results... you should be appointed to a position at the NRA.
 
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
[B]you should be appointed to a position at the NRA.
That would be VERY cool! I hear they get great discounts!
 
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Originally Posted by repete
That would be VERY cool! I hear they get great discounts!
(yelling)
You can get 60% off on hearing-aids.
 
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Originally Posted by Roadhog
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You can get 60% off on hearing-aids.
GOOD I NEED AT LEAST ONE!
Whats a youngen like you know bout hearing aids ?
 
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:36 AM
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That "rifle?" is amazing. If you were confronting a REALLY BIG "Alien" and needed to blow him to smitherenes, that would be MY weapon of choice.

But, it doesn't fit the description of an "assault weapon" or EVEN that of an assault rifle.

But... I DO have some questions that I hope you (or others) can help me with.

I watched the video, and I considered the "REPORT" (or sound) of that weapon to be much LESS audible or debilitating as that of other weapons/rifles. Did I miss something? Did the videographers delete (or muffle) the sound? Did the "tin" roofing (or whatever that was) NOT exacerbate the NOISE? NO.... I think that THAT rifle could be fired without the headgear!

As for it being an "assault" rifle... well, it certainly "assaulted" the shoulder of the one doing the firing! Wow.

Now... somebody help me! I THINK I understand the concept of a "center fire" weapon (as it was described in the video.) WHAT does that mean? Please give an example and definition of a weapon that is NOT "center-fired."
 
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:45 AM
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