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#51
I think your distaste for democrats and specifically our president truly clouds your objectivity. For one, the condition of the economy is in fact a global occurrence while you define it as a democratic phenomenon. You are claiming that the president is bringing this country "to its knees" because you believe it is to benefit the Muslims. You have no real basis for your statement. Perhaps there is some racial or religious prejudices in the mix.
Me thinks you read way too much into GMAN'S posts.
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#52
i agree that sharpton and jackson are part of the problem. they are too quick to condemn a white man. i am sick of al shaprton looking so rightious all the time. what about tawana brawley, remember her? the officer's name was smeared all over the paper and then it came out it was all a lie. can anyone recall shaprton offering his apologies?
and again, it's not whether he is really muslim or not, it's how he uses it. look at what what he does and not what he says.
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#53
yes, there are fringe groups. they are the ones that give everyone else a bad name or the bad stereotype. of course, not all muslims are terrorists.
but gman also makes a good point, that no leader of the middle eastern countries have condemned the acts of 9/11, the bombing of the USS Cole, the bombing of the US embassy in tanzania, the bombing of the world trade center in 1995. i may be mistaken, but no one comes to mind. and i'm sure some even support them secretly. Terror in America: Middle East - Taliban find they have few Muslim friends | Article from The Independent - London | HighBeam Research USATODAY.com - A time for soul-searching in British mosques I'd have linked more, but most of the articles that are that old are now pay per view.
#54
When someone discounts an entire religion as a religion of hate and murder, it's kind of hard not to read something into that.
#55
those articles are informative, but i didn't see any from heads of governments. i am sure they have made them. now whether they are sincere, who knows. when the iran government and hezbollah, especially for their acts of terrorism, apologize you let me know. :thumbsup:
while many muslims condemn terrorism, there are still plenty that condone it too.
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#56
One could easily say the same thing about the USA. In fact, weren't Republicans up in arms that Obama was apologizing for prior US attacks and acts of aggression?
#57
I live in a small town but we have a local Islamic church. Never ONCE have they ever denounced the 9-11 attacks or anything bad that was done in the name of Islam. To me, their silence means that they condone it. If you read their "book" it forbids them of speaking out against a Muslin brother. I believe your friend is the exception to the rule. Good debate!!!!
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#58
I have seen little else from "their religion". As a LEO pre and post 9-11, I saw too many so called "lovers of peace" come to the jail and recruit members. They never talked to the lessor offenders( drunks, child support dodgers, ect...) they only talked to the "hard core" inmates. Rape, murder, armed robbery...... those are the ones they talked to. Those are the ones they "won" over to their side. Don't even start to tell me how this is a religion of peace when they have "honor killings". Don't tell me what a "peaceful religion" it is when they BEAT their wives because their "bible" says they can.
I live in a small town but we have a local Islamic church. Never ONCE have they ever denounced the 9-11 attacks or anything bad that was done in the name of Islam. To me, their silence means that they condone it. If you read their "book" it forbids them of speaking out against a Muslin brother. I believe your friend is the exception to the rule. Good debate!!!! Deep breaths. Calm down! :lol:
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#59
You've seen what they wanted you to see. If they want you to hate Muslims, they'll show you stuff to make you hate Muslims.
As a LEO pre and post 9-11, I saw too many so called "lovers of peace" come to the jail and recruit members. They never talked to the lessor offenders( drunks, child support dodgers, ect...) they only talked to the "hard core" inmates. Rape, murder, armed robbery...... those are the ones they talked to. Those are the ones they "won" over to their side. Don't even start to tell me how this is a religion of peace when they have "honor killings". Don't tell me what a "peaceful religion" it is when they BEAT their wives because their "bible" says they can.
I live in a small town but we have a local Islamic church. Never ONCE have they ever denounced the 9-11 attacks or anything bad that was done in the name of Islam. To me, their silence means that they condone it.
If you read their "book" it forbids them of speaking out against a Muslin brother.
I believe your friend is the exception to the rule.
And with that, I'm finished with this thread. I hate nothing more than "us vs. them" nonsense, and this thread is overflowing with it.
#60
I am calm. There ain't no doubt about it. I said what I mean and I meant what I said. For the most part these low life POS are way down on my to do list. If they want to piss and moan about the way they are being treated then step up to the plate. Swing that bat!!! Get some balls and denounce those that blemish your religion. Our young men and women go there and stand up for what you say you believe in. Well it is time you stand up too. Any doubt which side I stand on???? Piss on those that say we need to look deeper. Ridge ( aka jeff )
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