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Originally Posted by Dejanh
Black people have a right to be racist, whites held them as slaves and denied their right for decades, prosecuted them and killed them by dragging their bodies behind a pick up truck. Burned their churches and so on...should I continue? If i was black i would also bee suspicious of whites.
Please list the city and state, and landowner that Obama was a slave under. For that matter, please list the city and state that his black ancestors, all of whom are from Kenya, were slaves under.

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Old 09-18-2009, 01:28 PM
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if you wanna be all pissy about white people (the french, spanish, portuguese, english, scottish, irish, etc...) having slaves. i think you should check back in history because africa SOLD THEIR OWN PEOPLE to slavery.

i am now done with this discussion. dejanh has shown his/her true colors. he/she is a reverse special "CAD all-star".
 
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dejanh
Black people have a right to be racist, whites held them as slaves and denied their right for decades, prosecuted them and killed them by dragging their bodies behind a pick up truck. Burned their churches and so on...should I continue? If i was black i would also bee suspicious of whites.

There were very few instances where whites burned black churches or dragged bodies behind a pick up truck. In fact, I only remember a single instance in recent years that gained national press. There have also been instances where black men have brutally raped and killed white women. There has and still is racism on both sides. I remember the white driver who was dragged from his truck and beaten by a mob of angry blacks during the LA riots several years ago. Blacks burned and pillaged businesses in LA. And then demanded that white America rebuilt what they destroyed.

I declared myself a liberal in Louisa,VA at one of our regular customers last week, they refused to let me unload and i had to call dispatch. That was last week and am white, imagine being black down there decades ago..

I have never known of a shipper refusing to unload someone due to their political party. There surely is more to this story.

You question ones heritage with their opinions, Obama is not Muslim nor he practices their fate and even if he did so what? I am proud to live in a country in which everyone has a shot at being somebody. He didnt pick his name, his parents did and he has nothing to do with Islam.

I am not sure what Obama practices. I do remember hearing him state on one occasion that he was Muslim when he was visiting in the Middle East. The media never mentioned it. Whether he was pandering to those with whom he met or actually meant it, only Obama knows for sure. I prefer to take people at their word. He has a Muslim father and studied Islam growing up. It would only seem to be natural that he would be Muslim.
 
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I prefer to take people at their word. He has a Muslim father and studied Islam growing up. It would only seem to be natural that he would be Muslim.
So you prefer to take people at their word, except when it comes to Obama (who has stated ad nauseum that he is not a Muslim)?

The man attends a CHRISTIAN church, and has done so for a very long time. The fact that he had to LEAVE his CHRISTIAN church after the Rev. Wright controversy is evidence of that. This whole "Obama is a Muslim" is the rantings and ravings of fools who likely believe he's not a US citizen either.

For the record, why does any of this matter anyway? What difference does it make if he IS a Muslim?
 
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
So you prefer to take people at their word, except when it comes to Obama (who has stated ad nauseum that he is not a Muslim)?

The man attends a CHRISTIAN church, and has done so for a very long time. The fact that he had to LEAVE his CHRISTIAN church after the Rev. Wright controversy is evidence of that. This whole "Obama is a Muslim" is the rantings and ravings of fools who likely believe he's not a US citizen either.

For the record, why does any of this matter anyway? What difference does it make if he IS a Muslim?

I heard him state that he was Muslim. It wasn't hearsay nor reported by the media. He stated that he was Muslim in a speech that he gave to some leaders while he visited the Middle East. It matters because he lied. I believe that what people say matters. It show character or lack thereof. He attended a so called Christian church who's pastor is a racist, if you believe your ears. Racism isn't part of the Christian faith, or shouldn't. He did finally leave that church after so much media attention and over 20 years later. I would not have stayed in a church that promotes racism. I also think that the Muslims want to over throw this government or bring this country to it's knees. Obama is doing a great job for them. They should be proud of the job their fellow Muslim brother is doing for them in bringing down the "Great Satan" (America). He may just purport to be what is convenient to get what he wants. He may just be a socialist or fascist. In any case, his actions show a disdain for the basic values most Americans hold dear. He appears to be doing everything he can to destroy this country.
 
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
So you prefer to take people at their word, except when it comes to Obama (who has stated ad nauseum that he is not a Muslim)?

The man attends a CHRISTIAN church, and has done so for a very long time. The fact that he had to LEAVE his CHRISTIAN church after the Rev. Wright controversy is evidence of that. This whole "Obama is a Muslim" is the rantings and ravings of fools who likely believe he's not a US citizen either.

For the record, why does any of this matter anyway? What difference does it make if he IS a Muslim?
I have to say Rev WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT, YOU ARE RIGHT!!
 
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since so many think Obama's name proves he is a muslim, I would like to know how many of you picked your own name and why?
 
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Please list the city and state, and landowner that Obama was a slave under. For that matter, please list the city and state that his black ancestors, all of whom are from Kenya, were slaves under.

Thank you.
I am not talking about president, am talking about blacks in general and why they may be suspicious of whites. It does not matter if he or she was a slave or not, others that were like him were treated that way and if he was born in that day and age, he would be working cotton fields as well just because he is black.
Jews are still suspicious of Germans, even though the younger ones were not even born during a holocaust.
 
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I am not sure what Obama practices. I do remember hearing him state on one occasion that he was Muslim when he was visiting in the Middle East. The media never mentioned it. Whether he was pandering to those with whom he met or actually meant it, only Obama knows for sure. I prefer to take people at their word. He has a Muslim father and studied Islam growing up. It would only seem to be natural that he would be Muslim.
Thomas Jefferson studied Islam as well. He owned Koran in his office and his patriotism was never questioned.

Whats wrong with learning other cultures, all intellectuals do it to broaden their knowledge. That is the reason why this man is very much respected around the world even though people give him hard time here.
America has no idea what it has, if you look at the media outside of this country, mainly Europeans, they worship Obama it seems. In Berlin over 300,000 people came out to hear him speak and he was not even a president at that time. America depends on foreign capital flowing here and that's why its a good thing we have this man in the office as people around the world still trust this country.


I have never known of a shipper refusing to unload someone due to their political party. There surely is more to this story.

They did not refuse me flat out, they told me they were full and they just let me sit there for 3 hours. After calling dispatch it turns out they were not full at all and i unloaded in about 45min. There is nothing more to this story. We have a driver here who moved from Long Island,NY to Louisa,VA and neighbors actually came to his doorsteps asking him if he would sell his house, that they would buy it from him, just because he was a Yankee. Even though the guy was white.

Give me break please, racism still plagues this country and no one call tell me otherwise.



I heard him state that he was Muslim. It wasn't hearsay nor reported by the media. He stated that he was Muslim in a speech that he gave to some leaders while he visited the Middle East. It matters because he lied. I believe that what people say matters.

He never said he was a Muslim, THe speech you are refering too was done in Egypt or Turkey where he acknowledged that he grew up in the Muslim country of Malaysia.
If you wanted to hold all of our leaders accountable for lying, you would have said something about Bush as well as that man misspoke everything that came out of his mouth. Where were your righteous believes then?
 

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Old 09-19-2009, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dejanh
I am not talking about president, am talking about blacks in general and why they may be suspicious of whites. It does not matter if he or she was a slave or not, others that were like him were treated that way and if he was born in that day and age, he would be working cotton fields as well just because he is black.
Jews are still suspicious of Germans, even though the younger ones were not even born during a holocaust.

Not all blacks who came to this country did so as slaves. It has been about 150 years since any blacks were held as slaves in America. There isn't a single black who is alive today who was a slave in this country. There isn't a single white living to day who was a slave owner. It is time to move on and forget about what may have happened in the past. Jews were slaves in Egypt for hundreds of years. Blacks who were slaves were never subject to the genocide that the Jews experienced in Germany. And you didn't have to be black to work in the cotton fields in the south. I had relatives who raised cotton and picked it themselves. Some did so when I grew up. There were sharecroppers and farmers throughout the south who raised and picked cotton themselves, without the help of slaves. There were also indentured servants in this country during the time of slavery. Those were mostly whites from Europe who basically sold themselves into slavery so that they could come to America. You can't classify all blacks as slaves and all whites as slave owners. This planet has a history of enslaving people. I think the saddest part of the blacks who were slaves is that they were sold into slavery by their own people or other tribes. It wasn't the white man who enslaved them. The Dutch are the ones who brought many of those enslaved to America. Slavery was not a good thing by any stretch of the imagination. But there comes a time when we all need to put the past where it belongs. I could see this issue making more sense if it happened to those who are alive today. This happened about 7 generations ago. It should have no bearing on our lives today. As long as those in government and those with special interests, such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson can use race to divide us, we will never be one people.
 

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