View Poll Results: Do you support the NAFTA Open Border for Mexican Drivers?
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jrhbull
This illegal immigrant crap is going to RUIN america just watch.Jobs are getting harder and harder to get each day because the employerswill hire immigrants for much cheaper $$$$$ then americans in general.This is the same situation that happened with the african americans back in the day.Watch it will happen.We the white people are the minority anymore and get the bottom of the barrell.How many trucks leaving Mexico will be hauling illegals back with them??? ALOT will the DOT check every truck?? NOPE!!!!!! Take action
Why does this topic always bring out those who tromp around in the middle of the night wearing bedsheets and pillowcases on their heads. Half of these jackasses can't find the USA on a world map.
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Fozzy
Originally Posted by jrhbull
This illegal immigrant crap is going to RUIN america just watch.Jobs are getting harder and harder to get each day because the employerswill hire immigrants for much cheaper $$$$$ then americans in general.This is the same situation that happened with the african americans back in the day.Watch it will happen.We the white people are the minority anymore and get the bottom of the barrell.How many trucks leaving Mexico will be hauling illegals back with them??? ALOT will the DOT check every truck?? NOPE!!!!!! Take action
Why does this topic always bring out those who tromp around in the middle of the night wearing bedsheets and pillowcases on their heads. Half of these jackasses can't find the USA on a world map.
They're the U.S. Americans that Miss South Carolina was referring to. You know the ones who don't have it like South Africa and the Iraq?
 
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Well its been interesting reading all this BUT we don't really know whats going to happen till it happens though I'm willing to bet whatever happens will be completely different than what both sides are arguing. First off the program has not been funded by congress and how the FMCSA is going about it is p###ing several congress critters off, I see budgets being cut. Now we all know that all those trucks crossing over will not be inspected but there are LEO's all over the country who will stop, inspect and OOS any truck even slightly out spec if it has a foreign license plate. Next these new drivers will be going to wonderful new places like Chicago and Atlanta(Atlanta PD will love this) and meetiing with our great American demolition derby called rush hour. That of course brings me to my last point, wrecks, and there will be some dandies which our loving ratings hungry news media will put at the top of the news time and sensationalize big time, you think they abuse truckers in accident reporting, wait till you see what they do to Mexican truckers. That brings us full circle back to the FMCSA and the congress, with the feces striking the rotary air impellers at a high rate of speed the inhabitants of all those legislative seats will be struck by the aforesaid feces will naturally react like they usually do and over-react. Then congressional hearings will ensue for the DOT and FMCSA to explain how this all happened, gallows will be set up on the national mall and a fun time will be had by all.
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCaveman
Next these new drivers will be going to wonderful new places like Chicago and Atlanta(Atlanta PD will love this) and meetiing with our great American demolition derby called rush hour. .
The traffic jams in and around the Mexico City area make Chicago and Atlanta look like a cakewalk. :wink:
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PackRatTDI
Originally Posted by CaptCaveman
Next these new drivers will be going to wonderful new places like Chicago and Atlanta(Atlanta PD will love this) and meetiing with our great American demolition derby called rush hour. .
The traffic jams in and around the Mexico City area make Chicago and Atlanta look like a cakewalk. :wink:
Ah, but in Mexico city You don't have a woman driving an urban assault vehicle talking on the cell phone, reading the newspaper and applying her make all at once. And oh yeah, honking and flipping the finger at people she (very) occasionally notices are occupying the same road as her.
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCaveman
Originally Posted by PackRatTDI
Originally Posted by CaptCaveman
Next these new drivers will be going to wonderful new places like Chicago and Atlanta(Atlanta PD will love this) and meetiing with our great American demolition derby called rush hour. .
The traffic jams in and around the Mexico City area make Chicago and Atlanta look like a cakewalk. :wink:
Ah, but in Mexico city You don't have a woman driving an urban assault vehicle talking on the cell phone, reading the newspaper and applying her make all at once. And oh yeah, honking and flipping the finger at people she (very) occasionally notices are occupying the same road as her.
You'd be suprised how many Mexicans drive just like that.
 
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Old 08-31-2007, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
Really, I dont see too many americans against this. The only thing I see is quite a bit of the conspiracy theory crowd making a lot of noise. Even on this board full of truck drivers, maybe 50% are against this.
Reading the facts about this plan instead of the conspiracy websites, it doesnt look like a bad idea. You hear people say things like "this is only going to make the corporations money". Well corporations are owned by the american people...the stock holders. Most people in this country invest. So if the corporations are making more money, most people are making more money.
I dont really see the difference between this and when we started allowing Canadian drivers do the same thing.
I agree, if you are a driver and almost all your freight that you pick up is at the border, this might hurt you. Otherwise, you arent going to even notice. Just like when Canadians started doing the same thing.
Maybe 50% against it? Check the results! 78% against it, and 22% for it, including you, and you're NOT a driver. That's how accurate your information is.
Distorting the facts, as always, eh? :wink:
 
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by continental
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
Really, I dont see too many americans against this. The only thing I see is quite a bit of the conspiracy theory crowd making a lot of noise. Even on this board full of truck drivers, maybe 50% are against this.
Reading the facts about this plan instead of the conspiracy websites, it doesnt look like a bad idea. You hear people say things like "this is only going to make the corporations money". Well corporations are owned by the american people...the stock holders. Most people in this country invest. So if the corporations are making more money, most people are making more money.
I dont really see the difference between this and when we started allowing Canadian drivers do the same thing.
I agree, if you are a driver and almost all your freight that you pick up is at the border, this might hurt you. Otherwise, you arent going to even notice. Just like when Canadians started doing the same thing.
Maybe 50% against it? Check the results! 78% against it, and 22% for it, including you, and you're NOT a driver. That's how accurate your information is.
Distorting the facts, as always, eh? :wink:
And where are you getting YOUR results?
 
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Old 09-01-2007, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PackRatTDI
Originally Posted by continental
Originally Posted by Sheepdancer
Really, I dont see too many americans against this. The only thing I see is quite a bit of the conspiracy theory crowd making a lot of noise. Even on this board full of truck drivers, maybe 50% are against this.
Reading the facts about this plan instead of the conspiracy websites, it doesnt look like a bad idea. You hear people say things like "this is only going to make the corporations money". Well corporations are owned by the american people...the stock holders. Most people in this country invest. So if the corporations are making more money, most people are making more money.
I dont really see the difference between this and when we started allowing Canadian drivers do the same thing.
I agree, if you are a driver and almost all your freight that you pick up is at the border, this might hurt you. Otherwise, you arent going to even notice. Just like when Canadians started doing the same thing.
Maybe 50% against it? Check the results! 78% against it, and 22% for it, including you, and you're NOT a driver. That's how accurate your information is.
Distorting the facts, as always, eh? :wink:
And where are you getting YOUR results?
This poll is from April on Consumer Reports website.

A new poll released by the groups today and conducted by the nonpartisan Lake Research Partners found that a majority of Americans (56 percent) believe the Bush administration's plan to allow Mexico-domiciled trucks to travel outside the current commercial zone and throughout the United States is dangerous.

Majority agreement that this is dangerous for U.S. drivers transcends gender, age, political identification and region. Notably, self-identified independents (60 percent) are most likely to agree that the Bush proposal is dangerous, though majorities of Democrats (54 percent) and Republicans (58 percent) concur.
 
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It just means they like a lot of characters around here are uninformed reactionary, ignorant or just plain bigoted. Now ask them to describe what is dangerous..(things that they have not been spoon fed of course) that ought to be funny!!!!
 

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