[Fozzy]

Talk about knowing your facts....

The teamsters were against drug testing..

And what percentage of American trucks are inspected? Of course you would support a program to inspect 100 percent of all trucks going into the different states?

[Cluggy619]

Originally Posted by Fozzy

Talk about knowing your facts....

The teamsters were against drug testing..

And what percentage of American trucks are inspected? Of course you would support a program to inspect 100 percent of all trucks going into the different states?

[Part Time Dweller]

Originally Posted by Fozzy

Talk about knowing your facts....

The teamsters were against drug testing..

So was just about everyone else, what is your point :?

[Fozzy]

Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller

So was just about everyone else, what is your point :?

Uhh,, could it have been one of the main points some doofus was ragging about?

[PackRatTDI]

Originally Posted by Part Time Dweller

Actually. it wasn't Bill....................:lol:

Doesn't matter if Bush signed it, Bill Clinton actively supported the ratification, something that wouldn't have taken place if he hadn't campaigned for it AS PRESIDENT. That's a FACT.

People conveniently forget that little part of history.

[Colts Fan]

People also forget that politicians only care about the special interest groups thatfund their campaigns. It doesn't matter if it's Bill Clinton or George Bush! Big business is going to give them what they want, $$$$$$$$$$!! This is coming from a political science major. The university I went to had a VERY liberal bias. But, when it came down to it, Machiavelli made it clear that an honest politician would lose everytime!!

[kc0iv]

Originally Posted by PackRatTDI

Actually. it wasn't Bill....................:lol:


Doesn't matter if Bush signed it, Bill Clinton actively supported the ratification, something that wouldn't have taken place if he hadn't campaigned for it AS PRESIDENT. That's a FACT.

People conveniently forget that little part of history.

OK let's talk FACTS.

(1) Bush SR. fast tracked it on August 12, 1992. Signed it on December 17, 1992.
(2) Clinton promised to review the agreement, which he considered inadequate.
(3) Clinton did not alter the original agreement, but complemented it with The North American Agreement on Environmental Cooperation and The North American Agreement on Labor Cooperation.
(4) Passed the house by 234-200 (132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voting in favor).
(5) Passed the U.S. Senate passed it by 61-38.
(6) Clinton signed the legislation into law (P.L. 103-182) on December 8, and the agreement took effect January 1, 1994.

See: www.nam.org/s_nam/doc1.asp?CID=201740&DID=223558

In the United States, Americans were divided on whether NAFTA benefited the U.S. economy (42% good, 43% bad), but they tended to feel that NAFTA was good for consumers like them (55% good, 30% bad), good (51% vs. 33% bad) for their own standard of living, and good (50% vs. 36% bad) for American companies. However, the American public felt that NAFTA was bad for creating jobs in the United States (56%) and for job security for American workers (60%). Thus both Mexicans and Americans seem to subscribe to the overall benefits of free trade as represented by NAFTA, but at the same time feel concern about members of their society put at risk by freer trade—in the case of Mexico, people in the countryside, and in the United States, workers.

Polling evidence shows general public support for NAFTA in Mexico, Canada and the United States, and at the Summit of the Americas in November 2005 Presidents Fox and Bush and Premier Martin all favored the more expansive FTAA. Opponents of trade agreements, however, may frame the issue in terms of winners and losers, and public opinion seems to resonate with the view that a trading partner will have the better deal. Public opinion is also attuned to the problem, often noted by trade economists, that while there may be general benefits of freer trade, specific groups in a society can often be hurt.

See: www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brlatinamericara/161.php?nid=&id=&pnt=161&lb=btgl

Here is some real facts.

kc0iv

[Sheepdancer]

And Sheepdancer, you should be happy....I understand you know alittle spanish.....recruiting should be easy. Think "BIG BONUS>>>STOCK OPTIONS".

Naa, we wont be using mexican drivers. We already move freight through mexico and accross the border. We just use the rails.
And yes, im always for things that will make the market go up.

[jrhbull]

This illegal immigrant crap is going to RUIN america just watch.Jobs are getting harder and harder to get each day because the employerswill hire immigrants for much cheaper $$$$$ then americans in general.This is the same situation that happened with the african americans back in the day.Watch it will happen.We the white people are the minority anymore and get the bottom of the barrell.How many trucks leaving Mexico will be hauling illegals back with them??? ALOT will the DOT check every truck?? NOPE!!!!!! Take action

[Sheepdancer]

Originally Posted by jrhbull

This illegal immigrant crap is going to RUIN america just watch.Jobs are getting harder and harder to get each day because the employerswill hire immigrants for much cheaper $$$$$ then americans in general.This is the same situation that happened with the african americans back in the day.Watch it will happen.We the white people are the minority anymore and get the bottom of the barrell.How many trucks leaving Mexico will be hauling illegals back with them??? ALOT will the DOT check every truck?? NOPE!!!!!! Take action

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What does this thread and truck driving have to do with illegal aliens? Those mexican drivers arent illegal, nor are they immigrants. Illegal aliens have absolutely nothing to do with the trucking industry, nor are they taking truck drivers jobs.
Dont get me wrong, I dont think we are doing near enough about the illegal alien problem. However, if you lose your job to an unskilled illegal alien for less pay. Face it, you werent that skilled in the first place. Almost all the jobs that illegal aliens are taking are jobs that our own poor wouldnt want to do. Go into any low income neighborhood and you will see a bunch of people sitting around doing nothing. You cant tell me that those people couldnt get busy and start picking grapes. Givin the choice, any employer would rather hire a low paid unskilled american, over an low paid unskilled illegal. Our own people need to get off their lazy butts and start doing the work and the illegals wouldnt have any work to do here.