Drew10 is absolutely correct on this point, and it really pi$$es me off!!

Many of these "Psycho, non bathing, racist, perv, trainees" give the rest of us Psych, non bathing, racist, pervs a really bad reputation!!
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Minimum time/mileage requirements, along with graduated limits on hours & miles; that would stop the trainee/team opportunism that both companies & trainers tend to abuse so badly.

In order for someone to teach a student pilot to fly a C152 in VFR flight conditions, he/she has to have IFR & CFI ratings; yet, someone with just 6 months & 3 companies under his belt can "train" a noob to drive a rolling 40 to missle through cities & mountain ranges, in all kinds of weather.

Which can do the most damage??

 

No offense to spencerian, but I guess I need to thank my lucky stars that the trainer I am set up to go out with at Davis Transport is a 30 year veteran and a 3 million miler....and not a rookie

 

Doesnt matter how much "experience" he has.
If "30 year veteran" is sleeping in the bunk while you are driving, he is of no use to you...or what are you learning sleeping in the bunk while "30 year veteran" is driving the truck??

 

You're correct and I agree 110%.......Davis's policy is the trainer is in the jump seat at all times.

 

I was going to add that also. Time in the seat and or industry does not necessarily mean that a driver will make a good trainer. Part of being a good trainer is accepting the changes that the industry does and being ABLE to see these changes as something positive. There are a lot of old timers that will not accept anything new no matter how good it is. And the very good point of having all that experience as nothing more that freight as he or she sleeps was excellent.

 

So let me get this correct you are going to sit second seat run "SOLO" miles put up with sharing an already cramped space with an individual you don't know and may hate living with as you both may live completely different , And this new driver despite you sitting second seat watching every move thet make could still kill you as despite you watching yopu are still not the one immediately in control of the vehicle ...ALL FOR SOLO MILES... :roll:

 

6 months can you drink coffee and shift gears at the same time yet? it should be more like 6 years before you should train people.

 

I won't. Regardless of what some of you think. See i had 3 trainers at CR England. The first used me as "seat meat". He tore up my logs, told me I had to drive illegal, and was an ass. As soon as I got on his truck he drove for an hour then had me drive for 8.

Well, I worked for England from October 11th 2006 to February 1st. The first 3 weeks were training. So that's 3 months. And I have been with TransAm 3 months. Minus 11 days of hometime. So it's CLOSER to 6 months. Not near 4 like you imply.

Good point Useless! I never thought about that! You are so insightful!

Yep. Did I not drive for England during November - February?

Hmmm. Seems to me that I have done several deliveries to Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, and New Jersey. Or are you talking about Quebec and montreal? TransAm doesn't deliver to Canada. Sure roads are narrow. Sure there are low bridges. Sure there is a lot of traffic. But proper planning, safe speeds, and safe driving gets me through.

TransAm doesn't force dispatch to NYC. And for that matter I don't accept.

I drove down Cabbage when I drove for England. I consider RT 26 through Oregon to be worse then Cabbage. I have also run down Donners, the Rockies, Black Mountain, the 3 sisters, and more. Most were in the winter.

But I won't be in Oregon in the winter because TransAm DOESN'T RUN IN OREGON!

So true. My second trainer with England drove for 20 years. In his eyes my backing was never good enough. My forward driving also needed help. You see it was raining in Oregon one night, and the wind was litterally blowing tree branches across the road. The speed limit was 55. I was going 52. Boy he got HOT! He said "I know the truck can go faster". And he was right. It could if I let it. His problem with my backing was crazy. I did a good set up, and was safe. One time he yelled at me that I was too crooked. I told him I thought it was good. When we got out of the truck we measured the distance from my steers to the yellow line. Then we measured the distance from my tandems to the yellow line. The difference was a mere inch!! After that he never questioned my backing again.

Uh, no waterhead. At what point did I ever say this would get me more miles or more money. If you think money is the reason I would do this you have serious issues.

I am at the rest area on 74 in Illinois just East of Peoria.

Now THAT pisses me off. I am the most cautious and SAFE driver that I can be. Tell me MR Bigrigger... Are you a trainer? How long have you driven?

Thanks YOOPR. Good to hear from you.

Changing jobs warrants needing a trainer? News to me. Also it was an incident, not an accident. And speed trap problems? I have no problem! If you would like I can read what I wrote about speed traps, burn it to CD, and mail it to you since you can't read correctly. I said I didn't speed.

Again, you're a waterhead.

I started the thread some 400 miles ago. And yes, I know with the likes of some of the people on this forum I would get this.

Man what a concept. Someone used LOGIC! Thanks Drew10

What some of you fail to understand is that there are and will be worse trainers. Would you rather the truck next to you rolling down the interstate have a new trainee with the TRAINER asleep in the back, or in the jumpseat?

I'll tell you where I'll be... in the jumpseat.

 

you can't really put a time limit on how long it takes to learn the job before being able to pass on the basics , because there are some that master the job very easily in 6 months ...And then there are others that have 2 decades driving experience that make you shake your head. :wink: