[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by Walking Eagle

For some Landstar is good as after you are signed on they front all the money for permits fuel etc. but you are paying for it in the long run.

Considering that for many of us BCO's, we wouldn't have access to the freight we haul outside of LS, I'm sure there are quite a few who would disagree with you.

[Walking Eagle]

Also have to look at it that if you scrimped and saved (for insurance etc.) so you could keep $1000 from that $4000 load you hauled (about $890 after you factor it) How much further ahead would you be ? Landstar is still taking out insurance etc. by the month (at a lot highyer rate than is availiable on the open market) Yes, you have to have the $$s up front to get the insurance Etc. but it only cost $35 a month for Internet Truck Stop and you can get that same load that paid $4000 without giving Landstar $1000

[X]

Walking Eagle
You hit on why I am so angry...I signed on as Inway Flatbed Division and it was the best place in the entire trucking industry.....This weekend I slammed flat into Landstar Inc..Jacksonville Division..
I didn't realize how much Landstar had changed. It is ..what Gertrude Stein said about Oakland..When you get there, there isn't any There there.

[Walking Eagle]

Double Ditto that !!!

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by Walking Eagle

Also have to look at it that if you scrimped and saved (for insurance etc.) so you could keep $1000 from that $4000 load you hauled (about $890 after you factor it) How much further ahead would you be ? Landstar is still taking out insurance etc. by the month (at a lot highyer rate than is availiable on the open market) Yes, you have to have the $$s up front to get the insurance Etc. but it only cost $35 a month for Internet Truck Stop and you can get that same load that paid $4000 without giving Landstar $1000

Okay, you are throwing a lot of misinformation around here.

First of all, the only required insurance through Landstar is their bobtail insurance. $18.99 per week. Is it more expensive than can be found elsewhere? Sure. Is it that much money? Hell no.

Secondly, your claim of "getting the same load without having to give LS $1000 for a load" is completely unfounded. Every single broker on every single load board is taking money from the loads they broker. Just like Landstar. The difference is, with Landstar, you know exactly how much they are taking.

Thirdly, Landstar does not take months to bill a load. If there is an issue on your manifest paperwork, it is brought up during the same pay cycle that you sent it in. Since they pay on a weekly basis, that means it will happen within 7 days of sending it in. And the person who is processing your paperwork will call.

Fourthly, you are absolutely right that Landstar is anal about paperwork. Especially logs. If you sent in logs that don't conform to their standards (such as not putting "loaded" or "empty" in the shipping documents area), then it is your own fault that they took issue with it. Their procedures are very clear, and are all set forth during orientation. If you choose not to follow them, and want to do things your own way, then it is nobody's fault but your own.

Fifthly, your claim of 90% double brokered freight is also unfounded. Many shippers will call several brokers on a load, and then choose the one who comes in with the best price. Just because other brokers have the load listed, doesn't mean the load is double brokered. Does it happen? Absolutely. Can you prove your 90% claim? Not in a million years.

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[Walking Eagle]

Just have to do the math as to how Landstar brokers are ripping BCO's. Just recently I hauled a load from Laredo Tx. into Ca., the broker I went thru had it for $91,000. Out of that I paid $17,450 (for the Mexican that brought it to the border) $14,320 in permits. $4,200 escorts, $4000 for a route survey and $5500 for police escorts in Ca. The landstar agent had it listed for $82,000 and then was going to take 26% off that !!
Hmmmm I would have done it for $60,680 for Landstar and still have had all the other charges :sad:

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by Walking Eagle

Just have to do the math as to how Landstar brokers are ripping BCO's. Just recently I hauled a load from Laredo Tx. into Ca., the broker I went thru had it for $91,000. Out of that I paid $17,450 (for the Mexican that brought it to the border) $14,320 in permits. $4,200 escorts, $4000 for a route survey and $5500 for police escorts in Ca. The landstar agent had it listed for $82,000 and then was going to take 26% off that !!
Hmmmm I would have done it for $60,680 for Landstar and still have had all the other charges :sad:

Sounds like one agent who doesn't know how to bid a load. Luckily, there are lots of other agents in the Landstar system who do.

I see you conveniently ignored the rest of the points.....



And "X", I have no idea what your "scenario" is trying to prove, but I don't see how it has anything to do with Landstar.

[Walking Eagle]

Duno how the quote thing works but Rev. subscribe to Internet truck Stop for a month and watch the very same loads listed there with no knock of the top as a Landstar agen is listing. Sure, the first listing agent is making money, that's what they are in business for, but then the Landstar agent is taking another 26% of that.

Oh you don't have load insurance ???? Hmmmm, I just unloaded a load that was worth $4,295,000 I don't think I would have hauled it without someone underwriting it ![/quote]

[Walking Eagle]

Think X is on some good stuff or hit the wrong key