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Originally Posted by Cluggy619
Well, let me jump back on this soapbox for a moment...
We are not talking about leaving a T/T at a truckstop so you can eat, shower, whatever. At least at a truckstop, the T/T being parked are around other trucks, and a less of a chance that someone is going to jack with the load. Hell, we are not even talking about leaving the tractor at all.
What he did is to leave his load out in the open in a parking lot with nothing around it. Why not paint a sign saying "Steal my stuff, PLEASE".
And I'm not buying the idea the company said "go ahead, and leave it there." And no-one else is either. Did the company tell him to leave it there? Maybe. Could he have found another place to put it? Of course.
ssoutlaw, you seem to be defending this driver alot. Do you know this driver? If so, then I understand. Otherwise, I feel that maybe you have personal knowledge of things falling out of the back. So did this happen to you? 30 years in the business, it would be hard to believe that it has not. But does it still happen? One must wonder.......
Still, I don't feel like we are given all of the facts around this.
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""is not required to be in readiness to work, or is not under any responsibility for performing work. ""
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This is what i was saying as far as how does this driver take a restart and also be responsible for the load at the same time??
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You cant, you must use reasonable care, but you must dot your I's and cross your T's with what your company will let you do. Record your conversation!!
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This is your quote, ssoutlaw. And I, for one, don't beleive that reasonable care was given.
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http://www.classadrivers.com/phpBB2/...=232123#232123
This is what I said in another thread:
""t would be hard to believe that any company would say in there rules you are responsible for theft of your load or any part of it when you are off duty. Even if you signed something like this, it wouldn't be worth the paper it was written on.
I had a similar problem a few yrs back. My sister lives in CA and I would drop the trailer at a home depot, with the company's permission. Used a pin lock and glad hand lock, and locks on trailer door but a drill works good to break the kingpin and glad hand locks. Trailer was jacked, and the company said it was my fault. I played back the permission they gave me on tape and had to sue for the 1000.00 deductible they took out of my check. Judge gave it back to me and said the paper I signed wasn't worth a crap!
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Old Timer, been there done that, and if you don't want to learn, and act like a know it all, or don't even drive then GO HOME LITTLE BOY!!!!!
That ought to put a knot in their nickers.....""
Do you actually think a truck stop is a safe place, more trucks have been jacked in truck stops and nobody pays attention unless it comes to their own truck! In his post he said he left his equipment, which leads me to believe truck and trailer!
A truck in a lot is not putting a sign saying steal me, give me a break, that load untarped could be stolen anywhere!
Why must you doubt someone, so it gives you a reason to bash someone to make you feel like a big Man! How do you know there was a better place to leave the equipment, If someone wanted the load, you're not going to stop it. You're to quick to point your finger and put someone down!
No I do not know the driver and I have had a trailer stolen from me, read above.
As far as things falling out the back of the trailer, get real, this was your attempt of saying the driver is stealing it!
""But does it still happen? One must wonder.......""
Your a Troll and a sh#t disturber for saying anything like this.
My whole point with this, which you will not understand because all you want to do is point fingers, and put people down, is there is a time when a driver becomes reasonably not responsible for his equipment, no matter what you think!
A driver is only responsible when he becomes negligent, and when a dispatcher says its OK to leave the equipment then its their BABY. This is why I have said in my posts to cover your as# and record what they say, we have been doing this for years in this business, which you might have known if you have been doing this for awhile! Truck stops used to sell a little recorder with a ear piece to record ph conversations and they called it a "dispatch buster" remember seeing this item!
No one can tell when something will be stolen, you can park where you think you should be and the outcome could still be the same. I am firmly convinced you will argue with anyone, being the shi# disturber you are, and I for one don't have the time to play your petty games.
Have a happy life.....................................
