Another logbook question/ Recap hours.
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
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#93
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Originally Posted by golfhobo
Originally Posted by Rat
Ok then, how does someone legally gain back hours from the first day?
Legally.... per the HOS regulations. I know that the 14 hour daily clock does not stop unless you stop for 8 hours or more. Not exactly true. I know that I can have a total of 70 hours of working time while in the truck and that I need to take a break after said 70 hours. Wrong. Dot has told me that I need to take a minimum of 34 hours after putting in a 70 hour week. Wrong. No they didn't. You misunderstood them. But then can dot officers from so many states be wrong on this? Well..... that is always possible.... but, I doubt it. You misunderstood them. I know one driver very well, and he was put out of service. He worked his 70, stopped for a 10 and tried going back to work again, got stopped and checked and was put OOS for 34 hours. Because he "burned" his 70 in LESS than 8 days, so 10 hours off wasn't enough to allow him to DRIVE again. Neither HE... nor YOU.... understand the regs. The runs we do run right on the edge of 11 hours total driving time then add pti and fueling along with loading and unloading and it comes to over 12 hours a day if things go good. Many times I am pushing hard against the 14 hour clock. So, you are burning your 70 hours (ALLOWED within 8 days) in about 6 days! If you do this, you WILL need a 34 hour reset, which is LESS time than it would take to gain back hours. So if I am lucky I run out of hours in about 6 days but most of the time I am out in 5 days with only a couple hours to spare. So YOU would need a 34 hour reset to get back on the road the soonest! It is not MANDATORY that you burn your hours so quickly. Can several DOT officers be wrong? Yes.... they can. Can ALL of us truckers on this site be wrong? NO.... we can't! But.... there are MANY on here who don't/didn't understand the HOS.... and it has ALL been explained many times before. DO THE RESEARCH on our previous threads, and then IF you still don't understand.... one of us will go through it all over again for you. That's part of what we DO here! :wink: Always here. Always willing to help. Hobo I'm a newbie and after reading your posts about the 34 reset I completely understand what you are saying. I just want to thank you for clearly outlining the WAY that the reset works and the way to work without it. I will be looking for more information as I learn other skills so I hope you wont mind my asking as the needs arise. Maybe we can meet on the golf course sometime in the future? Cheers, Butch
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
God help you, Butch. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
God help you, Butch. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'll be reading all the posts and asking many questions, so feel free to chime in any time, Rev. I see you're a fixture on this site and I value the input I've read so far. Thanks in advance. LOL Peace, Butch P.S. after scanning a couple hundred of your notes and comments already I feel honored to hear from you on my first day.
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Ok I was giged on my logs back at the office and she said that any food stops or anything like that to go Off Duty because I was burning up my drive hours but how is that if my 14 starts when I come on and I cant drive after 11 in my 14, its like I was on duty so long that I was only getting like 6 hours of driving or anything, most of the time I drove 9 to 10 hour days, am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by sbatson
Ok I was giged on my logs back at the office and she said that any food stops or anything like that to go Off Duty because I was burning up my drive hours but how is that if my 14 starts when I come on and I cant drive after 11 in my 14, its like I was on duty so long that I was only getting like 6 hours of driving or anything, most of the time I drove 9 to 10 hour days, am I missing something?
Depending on the length of your stop, then it may still go against your 14 hour day. But then someone may better explain how you can do this without burning up so much time. Personally I only stop for nature breaks or to pull over and make a sandwich or something quick and get back out on the road. I save hot meal time for before I start my day and for after my day has completed.
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Originally Posted by ButchM
Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
God help you, Butch. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'll be reading all the posts and asking many questions, so feel free to chime in any time, Rev. I see you're a fixture on this site and I value the input I've read so far. Thanks in advance. LOL Peace, Butch P.S. after scanning a couple hundred of your notes and comments already I feel honored to hear from you on my first day. For the record: I made a minor mistake in one of my earlier posts on this thread, but I doubt it will confuse anyone, and I'm not "allowed" to go back and correct myself. Anyway, glad to be of help. The 34 hour reset is really not all that hard to understand. Many times, it is not even really a "choice." Most of mine came when I was laid over waiting on a load. Anyway, since this thread was hijacked long ago, tell us about yourself.
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