What exactly is the 60/70 Rule?
#21
Originally Posted by mdgardner963
Count the 8th day back into an otr drivers account the hours come back after the 7th day ask anyone please. read the law dot 328.63 the 8th day you get hours back form the 1st day. :twisted:
Day 1: 9 Day 2: 8 Day 3: 8 Day 4: 11 Day 5: 10 Day 6: 8 Day 7: 10 __________ Total hours prior 7 days = 64 hours Total available hours for day 8 = 6 hours Day 8: 6 Total hours prior 7 days = 61 hours Total available hours for day 9 = 9 hours (because day 1 just dropped off on day 9). You regain your hours on day 9. Plain and simple, you are wrong.
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by mdgardner963
Count the 8th day back into an otr drivers account the hours come back after the 7th day ask anyone please. read the law dot 328.63 the 8th day you get hours back form the 1st day. :twisted:
Day 1: 9 Day 2: 8 Day 3: 8 Day 4: 11 Day 5: 10 Day 6: 8 Day 7: 10 __________ Total hours prior 7 days = 64 hours Total available hours for day 8 = 6 hours Day 8: 6 Total hours prior 7 days = 61 hours Total available hours for day 9 = 9 hours (because day 1 just dropped off on day 9). You regain your hours on day 9. Plain and simple, you are wrong.
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#23
Originally Posted by mdgardner963
Are you kidding me? Not a clue at all.. I give.. Cant explain the rules to you, your just to smart. maybe its a good thing your not an otr driver...
YESTERDAY: RECAP Day 1: 9 Day 2: 8 Day 3: 8 Day 4: 11 Day 5: 10 Day 6: 8 Day 7: 10(hours worked yesterday) ______________________________ TOTAL HOURS BEFORE TODAY (Add Rows 1-7) 64 hours AVAILABLE HOURS TODAY, day 8(Subtract total hours from 70) 6 hours HOURS WORKED TODAY: 6 hours TODAY (day 9): RECAP: Day 1: 8 Day 2: 8 Day 3: 11 Day 4: 10 Day 5: 8 Day 6: 10 Day 7: 6 (today) ______________________________ TOTAL HOURS BEFORE TODAY (Add Rows 1-7) 61 hours AVAILABLE HOURS TODAY (Subtract total hours from 70) 9 hours NOW, tell me where that is wrong, since I just took that out of my DOT APPROVED LOGBOOK RECAP :roll:
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by mdgardner963
Are you kidding me? Not a clue at all.. I give.. Cant explain the rules to you, your just to smart. maybe its a good thing your not an otr driver...
YESTERDAY: RECAP Day 1: 9 Day 2: 8 Day 3: 8 Day 4: 11 Day 5: 10 Day 6: 8 Day 7: 10(hours worked yesterday) ______________________________ TOTAL HOURS BEFORE TODAY (Add Rows 1-7) 64 hours AVAILABLE HOURS TODAY, day 8(Subtract total hours from 70) 6 hours HOURS WORKED TODAY: 6 hours TODAY (day 9): RECAP: Day 1: 8 - 8 on the 8th day Day 2: 8 Day 3: 11 Day 4: 10 Day 5: 8 Day 6: 10 Day 7: 6 (today) ______________________________ TOTAL HOURS BEFORE TODAY (Add Rows 1-7) 61 hours AVAILABLE HOURS TODAY (Subtract total hours from 70) 9 hours NOW, tell me where that is wrong, since I just took that out of my DOT APPROVED LOGBOOK RECAP :roll:
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I am sorry what your failing to understand is that the 8th day if your under the 70 then day 1 comes back to you.. i know its hard to understand but its Fed dot rule not mine.
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Originally Posted by mdgardner963
I am sorry what your failing to understand is that the 8th day if your under the 70 then day 1 comes back to you.. i know its hard to understand but its Fed dot rule not mine.
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Originally Posted by mdgardner963
I am sorry what your failing to understand is that the 8th day if your under the 70 then day 1 comes back to you.. i know its hard to understand but its Fed dot rule not mine.
So most are telling you correctly but not stressing how you gain that day! I have power point that might help you understand it a "little" more clearer. What you should be doing is this: Before you start working every day the recap should be filled out (now many recaps are shown differently on the log sheet so I pray you have the 7 day recap and boxes 1,2 & 3?? However the answer will be the same if you do it on a scrap paper! So I am getting ready to start working on 2-12-08 but I need to fill out my recap BEFORE I start driving. My last 7 days hours are listed below: 11 9.5 5 4 10 9 8 ___ Last 7 day total is 56.5 Take 70 minues 56.5 and the answer is 13.5 that means for 2-12 I have 13.5 hours to "work" lines 3 & 4 combined. Now lets say I work all those 13.5 hours! At midnight (9th day) I will gain 11 hours, because every night @ midnight you gain the hours that you worked on line 1 Or what you worked 8 days ago! DOT states you can not work MORE than 70 hours in 8 days! So add up the hours you have worked the last 7 days and today and subtract that from 70 hours and that's how many hours you can legally work right now. Midnight will make them hours change because it's a "new day". Did this help clarify a little of the dispute without the attacks? PM me if you would like
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day 1
11 driving 2hrs to p t and load fuel 13hrs day 2 11hrs driving 1hr pt fuel 14hrs day 3 11hrs driving 3hrs pt unload, load fuel.14 hrs day 4 11 hrs driving 1hrs pt fuel. 13hrs day 5 5.5hrs driving .5 pt 6 hrs day1 start time was 6am. out of hrs at mid day Friday right. 34hr reset good to go 4am sun day 11 driving 1hr pt fuel 74hrs driving and on duty in 7 days why use the 8 day rule. go on blow a hole in it but remember a reset is a reset
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#29
Originally Posted by Cat6869
Originally Posted by mdgardner963
I am sorry what your failing to understand is that the 8th day if your under the 70 then day 1 comes back to you.. i know its hard to understand but its Fed dot rule not mine.
So most are telling you correctly but not stressing how you gain that day! I have power point that might help you understand it a "little" more clearer. What you should be doing is this: Before you start working every day the recap should be filled out (now many recaps are shown differently on the log sheet so I pray you have the 7 day recap and boxes 1,2 & 3?? However the answer will be the same if you do it on a scrap paper! So I am getting ready to start working on 2-12-08 but I need to fill out my recap BEFORE I start driving. My last 7 days hours are listed below: 11 9.5 5 4 10 9 8 ___ Last 7 day total is 56.5 Take 70 minues 56.5 and the answer is 13.5 that means for 2-12 I have 13.5 hours to "work" lines 3 & 4 combined. Now lets say I work all those 13.5 hours! At midnight (9th day) I will gain 11 hours, because every night @ midnight you gain the hours that you worked on line 1 Or what you worked 8 days ago! DOT states you can not work MORE than 70 hours in 8 days! So add up the hours you have worked the last 7 days and today and subtract that from 70 hours and that's how many hours you can legally work right now. Midnight will make them hours change because it's a "new day". Did this help clarify a little of the dispute without the attacks? PM me if you would like
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It doesn't matter how you explain it. The dude thinks the rule says eight days but means seven. That's some brilliant reasoning, as far as I'm concerned.
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