I was only stating what i know.. I am not looking for stuff. Safty is the drivers responsabity period. If not checking your equipment you should just get the heck out of the bussiness.

 

Lets make sure you "all" understand!

The vehicle inspection is NOT to be done in a "24 hour period".

There is a pre-trip that MUST be done PRIOR to getting behind the wheel
&
A post-trip should be done @ the end of each days working time for the day.

The post-trip is the one you should be inspecting EVERYTHING!
The pre-trip is the one you should be walking around to make sure nothing went wrong or if repaires was needed you should do a full inspection "again".

The vehicle daily inspection should be filled out @ the END of the day as the pre-trip does not need to be done in writting, but if repairs was needed on the post-trip you need to sign off on the inspection report that everything is fine and safe for YOU to drive!

 

Um you better read up deary. post and pre are one in the same.

 

WOW! and you already know everything

 

ROFL :lol:

You really should shut up already. It's clear you have no idea what you are talking about. The FMCSA rules are very clear on what a pre trip covers, and what a post trip covers. The items they cover are not the same. :roll:

 

That's interesting......

In this thread, you stated:

So in one thread you started in 1997, in another thread, you started in 1972. In both threads, you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Sorry mdgardner963 there is a pre-trip inspection (see 392.7) and there is a post inspection (see 396.11) as Cat6869 said.

kc0iv

 

Part 392


< 392.6 392.8 >

§392.7 Equipment, inspection and use.


No commercial motor vehicle shall be driven unless the driver is satisfied that the following parts and accessories are in good working order, nor shall any driver fail to use or make use of such parts and accessories when and as needed:

Service brakes, including trailer brake connections.

Parking (hand) brake.

Steering mechanism.

Lighting devices and reflectors.

Tires.

Horn.

Windshield wiper or wipers.

Rear-vision mirror or mirrors.

Coupling devices.

§396.11 Driver vehicle inspection report(s).


(a) Report required. Every motor carrier shall require its drivers to report, and every driver shall prepare a report in writing at the completion of each day's work on each vehicle operated and the report shall cover at least the following parts and accessories:

Service brakes including trailer brake connections

Parking (hand) brake

Steering mechanism

Lighting devices and reflectors

Tires

Horn

Windshield wipers

Rear vision mirrors

Coupling devices

Wheels and rims

Emergency equipment

(b) Report content. The report shall identify the vehicle and list any defect or deficiency discovered by or reported to the driver which would affect the safety of operation of the vehicle or result in its mechanical breakdown. If no defect or deficiency is discovered by or reported to the driver, the report shall so indicate. In all instances, the driver shall sign the report. On two-driver operations, only one driver needs to sign the driver vehicle inspection report, provided both drivers agree as to the defects or deficiencies identified. If a driver operates more than one vehicle during the day, a report shall be prepared for each vehicle operated.

(c) Corrective action. Prior to requiring or permitting a driver to operate a vehicle, every motor carrier or its agent shall repair any defect or deficiency listed on the driver vehicle inspection report which would be likely to affect the safety of operation of the vehicle.

(1) Every motor carrier or its agent shall certify on the original driver vehicle inspection report which lists any defect or deficiency that the defect or deficiency has been repaired or that repair is unnecessary before the vehicle is operated again.

(2) Every motor carrier shall maintain the original driver vehicle inspection report, the certification of repairs, and the certification of the driver's review for three months from the date the written report was prepared.

(d) Exceptions. The rules in this section shall not apply to a private motor carrier of passengers (nonbusiness), a driveaway-towaway operation, or any motor carrier operating only one commercial motor vehicle.


If you notice between the 2 inspections the pre-trip does not require you to check the wheels and rims and it does not require you to check the emergency equimpent

The best advice I can give a driver is by inspecting your equipment at the end of the day is preparing you better for your next 14 hour period. Keep in mind time waiting for a tow truck or getting repairs is line 4. If you wait and find something wrong on your pre-trip then you will be eating your 14 hour away by getting repairs done to your equipment.

Remember you can be on line 4 all you want passed the 14th hour. So if the truck needs repaired it's just going to go against your 70, just the same if you got it repaired on your pre-trip. I hear to many drivers get in a hurry because hey I got a load I am gone, they don't check their equipment (shame on them). Well on your post-trip what kind of hurry are you really in? Yeah I know getting your 10 hour break over with, well write dot and tell them your 10 hour break should include your pre-trip & post-trip and maybe we will get somewhere, just my humble opinioin.

The pre-trip is to make sure everything was repaired if there was repairs needed. The truck or trailer should not be driven unless they was repaired or it's shame on the company

 

No, it's shame on the driver.

 

but if it's day 8 then you gain back all the repairs that you had done on day one and you dont have to worry about it. that's how I been doing it since 1972 or 1997 or whatever year I started