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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
I ain't sayin nothin. :wink:
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WELL.... That's a "first!" :lol:
They say Discretion IS the better part of Valour! Nice to know you're so valorious! :lol:
Seriously, I know Yoopr said this is not a forum for "creative logging," but this IS a forum for new drivers to learn the ropes.
I'm not necessarily encouraging "creative logging." But, I think it is "practical" to give out information on how a driver can satisfy the requirements of the fmcsa regs and the DOT, and still get the job done. And we ALL know that, at times, we are asked to "git 'er done!"
We are often talking about a person's livelihood here. Many new drivers lose their jobs because they can't strike a "median" between what the rules say, and what their dispatcher wants.
Many others don't make a living because they follow the rules to the letter, even tho the letter doesn't allow them to make a living. And usually, neither they NOR the DOT even understands the letter of the law.
Like someone said earlier, "who in their right mind would log 3 hours on line 4 for unloading?" I logged over an hour for that just the other night... because the idiots at the shippers logged times on my BOL that made THEIR books look good! They weren't even the correct times!!! :twisted:
I know for a fact, and we ALL do, that the DOT will not question a 15 min log time for loading. They even allow you to make multiple stops in one town and just flag it and write down the miles inbetween! Then the shipper gives you a BOL that says you started loading at 7 pm (when you first checked in) and finished at midnight! You ALL know that is B.S!!)
The DOT is concerned about miles and hours spent behind the wheel over long distances. They KNOW we get naps at shippers! If your logs LOOK good, you SMELL good! That's a fact!
The DOT is concerned about TWO things! That you are NOT driving after 14 hours (cuz you'll get sleepy by then,) and that you don't drive more miles than you can log in 11 hours during that time! Period!
They assume you are stopping to stretch, get fuel, eat lunch, take a nap or whatever, as long as you haven't driven more miles than you "should" be able to do in 11 hours, and are NOT driving after the 14th hour after coming on duty!
It is YOUR job to make the logbook show that, so they don't have to put you Out Of Service!
I'm NOT condoning backing up your logs so you can drive 22 hours a day, then taking a 3 hour nap, and doing it again! That is illegal, unsafe, and just WRONG!!!
And you "wussies" that drive Solo, and get to shut down for 10 to 16 hours a night, don't even have a right to argue with me! I drive TEAM, and the wheels keep turning! I sleep 6 out of 12 hours in a moving sleeper if I'm LUCKY! [ :lol: :lol: :lol: Just kidding guys! I drive solo now and then and LOVE it!]
Not every trucker gets a cushy job like the Rev has. Some of us have to drive for a living (until we get enough years experience to GET a job like his! :lol: )
So... the question is... is the trainer asking your husband to drive ILLEGAL? Or just asking him to "conserve" hours on his 14 hour clock AS WELL as his 70 hour clock?
Even the Rev has made postings here that advocate conserving hours on your 70 while at the shipper... so I'm NOT expecting alot of flack over this posting!
I'm trying to get to the bottom of Madii's wife's husband's (what a mouthful) problem. And MAYBE, help save his job!
I DO NOT drive when I'm sleepy! I DO NOT drive over my 14 hour window! But, I do get my job done! AND I check my equipment thoroughly every time I get behind the wheel! I've driven as little as 290 miles in a day, and I've driven as much as 825!
I've never had a ticket nor an accident.
I don't have as much experience as the REV and many others here. But, I know the rules as well as anyone, and I ain't "skeert" to drive a truck!
Hobo