Question about off duty/14 hour rule/sleeper berth
Scenerio: A driver goes on duty at 6 am. He drives for 8 hours til 2 pm. He's tired so he pulls over and rests for 3 hours. Does this stop the 14 hour clock or is he still only allowed to be on duty until 8 pm? My husband and his trainer are arguing over this. Thanks.
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Thanks Rev :)
And I think I'm going to faint from shock. Rev and Dawn agreed on something!! :shock: :shock: :? :lol: Now I know it must be right. |
I believe that the reason your husband's trainer is arguing this point, is that under the OLD rules, short breaks WOULD extend (what was then) the 15 hour clock.
MANY, many, trainers are making this mistake! I had to explain it to at least TWO trainers, AND my safety director! :shock: Does your husband take a laptop with him? If so... make sure he has the link to the fmcsa site handy. Also... the section on logbook examples is VERY helpful. BTW.... I think you just RUINED the Rev's day! :lol: :lol: :lol: |
Please Read the post below.
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Rev, i must dispute your claim of the 14 hour rule as far as driving is concerned. the 14 hours is in essence the combinations of lines 1, 3 and 4. when you are in the bunk for a minimum of 8 hours, you must show a 15 minute pre trip (i.e. on duty not driving) hence the words "on duty". when you are "on duty" either "on duty, not driving", "on duty driving" or "off duty", it still counts against your 14 hours. I suggest to you madii'swife, is to get a copy of the "Safety Regulations" book and read section 395. it clearly states that out of 14 hours, you have 11 of those to drive. It also states that you have a 10 hour break, but it does not state you can take 5 hours off duty and 5 hours in the bunk. Alot of people may dispute this, however, if it is not written in the safety regulations book, then i am legally able to take 5 hours off duty and 5 hours in the bunk, so long as that truck does not move for 10 consecitive hours. Also, if your truck needs fuel, you have to log it as "on duty, not driving" for 15 minutes, which does count against your 14 hours of on duty. Rev, i do not know where you came up with what you wrote? When you are on line 1, 3 and 4 you are considered to be "on duty", the only way you can stop that 14 hour clock from ticking away is to log it on line 2 for a "minimum of 8 hours, no more than 10"!!!! As i posted above, Rev, pull out your Safety Regulations book and pay close attention to section 395, word for word. |
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Actually it was my husband who had gotten the wrong impression on this one. His trainer is using it as a reason to not run legal logs though, but thats a whole other issue. No he does not have a laptop with him, we haven't been able to afford one yet. He has his "little green book" as he called it, but hadn't dug into it yet. Quote:
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The rule clearly states that you cannot DRIVE after 14 hours on duty,it does not say anything about being on duty after 14 hrs,once again the Rev is right about this issue.
Yes the 14 hrs are a total of lines 1,3,4,but the 14 hrs only comes into play in regards to your ability to drive after reaching the 14th hour after coming on duty,unless a 8 hr break is taken in that 14 hr time frame,but that just confuses people more...sry |
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As mike3fan says "The rule clearly states that you cannot DRIVE after 14 hours on duty,it does not say anything about being on duty after 14 hrs,once again the Rev is right about this issue.." Secondly, There is no rule that REQUIRES any amount of time for a post-trip or pre-trip time. Which I contend can not be done in 15 minutes if done correctly. kc0iv |
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I think you are mis-reading what I wrote. |
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