Making some changes to my generator's appearance

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How did the sound deadening material handle the fire - go up real quick or not? Something to think about.
The fire never got that big, but the sound deadening material is rated for 400 degrees.

I would also stop in the local Pete shop and get some split loom and wrap everything you can in it. Plastic but should prevent any arcing issues in the future.
I have a bunch of it. I was just in a hurry because I was losing daylight fast.

Glad to hear the pump from TK works but will the system hold prime after shutting the unit off? Does the pump have a check valve to keep the fuel up in the system - something to consider if the pump is takes its lubrication from the fuel itself.
I had it running, then I drove across town and started it up again without a problem. I'll find out tomorrow when I start it if it loses its prime.

I can't comment on the muffler as I don't know enough about the unit. I would also check out mufflers for other gen-sets. I have a Honda generator that I use hunting - so quiet you really can't hear it running 10 feet away. It runs smooth and the electricty is so clean you can run a computer off it no problem. Perhaps something could be rigged with that exhaust. Don't know if it runs diesel or not but Honda gen-sets are QUIET - I am sure you could find one to fit.
I'll see what the auto parts store can offer me. I think the one cylinder engine may just be too loud. If it comes down to it, I may end up having to yank the engine and put a 2 cylinder on in its place. I only hope it will fit in the box...
 
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I do not believe that Honda gen-set is a twin cylinder - then again I could be wrong, never really paid attention to it - pull the cord and it runs like a sewing machine.

As to the prime thing - I think you should be ok - usually something like that will lose the prime rather quick if it is going to.
 
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Originally Posted by Heavy Duty
You are not a real truck owner, It caught on fire and YOU put it out, I know several people that would have paid to be parked next to a truck on fire
That reminds me of a funny story. About 11 years ago, I was driving for a farmer, pulling a grain wagon. I had a 12V cooler in the truck, and the cord was sitting on top of a greasy piece of carpet. The carpet started on fire, and I quickly grabbed the fire extinguisher and put it out. When I called my boss, he yelled at me for putting it out. :lol:
 
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Ok Rev,...I've been down this road also, you might still be able to save this...here's what I did when I ran into this problem. Go online and get a generator specific muffler, you can run an exhaust line to it and then add a tailpipe. A car muffler will not work at all, you have to take advantage of the 1" exhaust outlet on the head of the engine. (I have 2 mufflers on mine and you can barely hear exhaust noise come out of them).

Then wrap all wires with heater hose, not the plastic wire wrap, there is too much vibration and it will wear through the plastic in a short time.

Also an air-cooler twin will be just as loud as a single. The only way you will be able to quiet this down is to get a bigger box, super insulate it with lead lined foam,,,,,,,or a lower rpm genset. Most run at 3600rpm (screamers) try to get one that runs aroun 1800-2400rpm, that will make a huge change.

Does you genset have a cooling fan? or is it an open jug/head with cooling fins? If it only has the fins, you may have to put another higher speed fan that blows over the fins and your existing fan can help remove the hot air from your box.

Your headed down a road of testing things out, everything you have done, I have already done over the last 20 years of trying to put a cost effective genset into a moving vehicle. It's very difficult,...you will need to be calm and feel the force.

And for criminy sake don't get yourself killed,.....Steve'O would like that too much.
 
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Originally Posted by duck
I do not believe that Honda gen-set is a twin cylinder - then again I could be wrong, never really paid attention to it - pull the cord and it runs like a sewing machine.

As to the prime thing - I think you should be ok - usually something like that will lose the prime rather quick if it is going to.
Why don't you just admit that while I was paying my bill today (which you and Tom clearly padded :lol: ), you sabotaged my system.

I still don't know how that bill got to $350+ :?
 
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
Originally Posted by duck
I do not believe that Honda gen-set is a twin cylinder - then again I could be wrong, never really paid attention to it - pull the cord and it runs like a sewing machine.

As to the prime thing - I think you should be ok - usually something like that will lose the prime rather quick if it is going to.
Why don't you just admit that while I was paying my bill today (which you and Tom clearly padded :lol: ), you sabotaged my system.

I still don't know how that bill got to $350+ :?
HA! I never touched the bill. Given the tech on it - I would say he is the only one that would touch my truck when it comes to custom work like that. He is very exacting as to what he will allow his name on it - used to build motorcycles and the like. They fact he didn't say a word negativly about what you are doing speaks VOLUMES about the quality of your work. He has seen some real crap and usually lets us know when he does.

You did have 80 bucks in parts as well and you may have not noticed the labor rate went up to 87.50

As to the muffler/prime thing - never occured to me until I read the post here.
 
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A $1,000 honda 2,000 watt portable generater would work. Keep it in your box, take it out at night, fire it up. I've seen a few guys do that. Problem is fuel consumption. I think it hols a gallon of gas and only lasts 4 hrs per tankful.
It is very quiet.
Thats the easy way out.
 
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get off your billfold and get one of these, no muss, no fuss, no fire

http://www.trucksleeper.com/images/generator7000.pdf
 
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Heavy, do they offer a watercooled twin? Thats a real nice looking unit. A Kubota 905 direct drive gen-head 1,800rpm sweeet!!
A nice low maint. unit right there.
 
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Originally Posted by Doghouse
Ok Rev,...I've been down this road also, you might still be able to save this...here's what I did when I ran into this problem. Go online and get a generator specific muffler, you can run an exhaust line to it and then add a tailpipe.
Do you think an RV store would have something like that?

A car muffler will not work at all, you have to take advantage of the 1" exhaust outlet on the head of the engine. (I have 2 mufflers on mine and you can barely hear exhaust noise come out of them).
Mine is 1 1/4"

Then wrap all wires with heater hose, not the plastic wire wrap, there is too much vibration and it will wear through the plastic in a short time.
That actually sounds like a good idea right there.

Also an air-cooler twin will be just as loud as a single.
I was actually talking about a water cooled engine. :lol:

Does you genset have a cooling fan? or is it an open jug/head with cooling fins?
Cooling fins.

If it only has the fins, you may have to put another higher speed fan that blows over the fins and your existing fan can help remove the hot air from your box.
Why? Do you think 170 degrees is too hot? I thought that seemed like a decent temp. :?

And for criminy sake don't get yourself killed,.....Steve'O would like that too much.
Getting myself killed is half the fun. :lol:
 

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