Information for those worried about Mexican Truckers in US
#11
04-22-2007, 11:51 AM
I spent 6 years living in Edinburg,TX. I talked to many drivers, doing those transfers, and every one of them, told me the same thing. They claim to be making $5 - $10 dollars per transfer. Unless they were lying, you MUST be. I tend to believe them, as they didn't look like they made anywhere near $500 for a 180 mile trip. I know looks can be deceiving, but I think they were being honest. That's one reason why the Mexican Carriers can make $3000 per day doing transfers, (your words) they pay the drivers so poorly! :wink:
#12
04-22-2007, 12:01 PM
You do not need to spend all night googling, just call any Mexican Carrier
and request a quote from any town in the border with Mexico to any City in central Mexico most Central Mexico Cities are about 600 to 700 miles from the Border with the USA for ex Gudalajara, Mexico City, or Guanajuato, they will quote from $10,000 pesos to $15,000 pesos depending in the kind of load Mexico rates for freight are much higer than USA (Peso rate is $11.50 to $1.00 dllr)
#14
04-22-2007, 12:08 PM
A Mexican driver doing transfers earns $200 pesos per trip and makes
an average of 3 per day that is about $60 dlls per day which is a good salray for Mexico where labor minimum wage is $55 pesos per day (about 5 dlls) In South Texas the minmum wage for labor is $5.50 per hour (about $44.00 dlls per day) so as you can see mexican driver make more money than meny americans at the South Border of the USA
#15
04-22-2007, 12:10 PM
Originally Posted by bulldog2036
Nope terrylamar, Juarez Mexico is south of me...... :wink:
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#16
04-22-2007, 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by CapitanGhost
You do not need to spend all night googling, just call any Mexican Carrier
and request a quote from any town in the border with Mexico to any City in central Mexico most Central Mexico Cities are about 600 to 700 miles from the Border with the USA for ex Gudalajara, Mexico City, or Guanajuato, they will quote from $10,000 pesos to $15,000 pesos depending in the kind of load Mexico rates for freight are much higer than USA (Peso rate is $11.50 to $1.00 dllr) One, the brouhaha here in the states right now has to do with the impact of this trade deal on our freight rates. That said, we're taking an aside to discuss Mexican freight rates. We also need to pay attention to anecdotal evidence. That's when someone tells about their own experience to try to make a general point. Anecdotal evidence is useful but it has to be used carefully. Sometimes yours or my personal experience doesn't represent the overall situation. I'm still googling looking for a comparison of Mexican and American freight rates. In the meantime, I found the following article that discusses some of the ABC's of how this affects American trucking and American freight rates. I will say I am surprised that the American companies aren't perched to dominate the cross border trade with their 'deep pockets' (lots of money to invest). Or, maybe they are. Maybe those 10 companies are all behemoths like Celedon that have the tremendous amounts of cash it'll take an American company to get started. Ten big companies could put quite a squeeze on 1,000 little ones.
U.S. firms not eyeing Mexico
Web Posted: 03/30/2007 08:32 PM CDT Meena Thiruvengadam Express-News Business Writer Although more than 800 Mexican trucking companies are waiting for access to U.S. roadways under the cross-border trucking pilot program announced last month, fewer than 10 American companies are seeking the same access in Mexico. The U.S. government is optimistic more U.S. truckers will come forward to join the program, but industry leaders are skeptical because they say the risks outweigh the benefits. "We believe we'll see more U.S. firms apply," U.S. Department of Transportation Secretary Mary Peters said in San Antonio last week. Jim Hoffa, general president of the Teamsters union, isn't so sure. "No one wants to go down there," he said in a recent interview. "There are too many security problems — stolen tires, stolen equipment." U.S. trucks haven't been allowed in Mexico since at least 1995, when the U.S. denied Mexican truckers access to American roadways under cross-border trucking provisions included in the North American Free Trade Agreement. Mexican trucks haven't been able to drive freely in the U.S. since 1982. Under the DOT pilot, trucks from 100 Mexican companies would be allowed to make deliveries anywhere in the U.S., but those deliveries would have to originate in Mexico. Up to 100 U.S. companies also would be allowed to make deliveries in Mexico. "This whole scheme is being sold under the guise of reciprocity, but that reciprocity is largely a paper reciprocity," said Herbert Schmidt, president and CEO of Joplin, Mo.-based Contract Freighters Inc. "The difference is security issues, road infrastructure, trucking infrastructure and tax laws." Claudio Gallegos of the National Confederation of Mexican Carriers said U.S. truckers are right to worry about highway robbery in Mexico. Bandits have a long history of stealing rigs and robbing freight on Mexican highways, targeting trucks carrying cargo with high black market value like clothing and medicine, Gallegos said. In the past three months, Contract Freighters, which partners with Mexican carriers, has had four trailers of textiles stolen, Schmidt said. Robbery rates have dropped in recent years, but Gallegos said thieves are no longer stopping at cargo. "Many of our trucks are stolen and taken to be sold in Central America," he said. so, does telling the truth make one a racist?Another issue U.S. companies would have to deal with is obtaining proper insurance for driving in Mexico. "Most of the policies are going to exclude coverage in Mexico just as your personal auto policy would exclude Mexico," said Brett Anderhub, vice president of the cargo insurer Rekerdres & Sons in Dallas. Mexican trucking businesses have more to gain from the implementation of cross-border trucking provisions than their U.S. counterparts, said Rob Barnett, a San Antonio attorney whose practice focuses on international business transactions. "If you have a trip from Monterrey to San Antonio, right now half that trip is being driven by a U.S. driver at more than $20 an hour. The other half is by a Mexican driver at about $3 an hour," he said. "If you can make it so the trip is driven by a Mexican driver for a Mexican company the whole way at $4 an hour, they're in a position to gain much more." http://www.mysanantonio.com/business...g.2cde51f.html
#17
04-22-2007, 12:47 PM
Originally Posted by CapitanGhost
A Mexican driver doing transfers earns $200 pesos per trip and makes
an average of 3 per day that is about $60 dlls per day which is a good salray for Mexico where labor minimum wage is $55 pesos per day (about 5 dlls)
In South Texas the minmum wage for labor is $5.50 per hour (about $44.00 dlls per day) so as you can see mexican driver make more money
than meny americans at the South Border of the USA
#18
04-22-2007, 01:03 PM
Probably what you do not like of those truck is that they are ugly and old
but mechanicly are up to the USA safety standars, and are makeing more money than many BRAND NEW AMERICAN TRUCKS. this all american trucks with special permits from the Mexican Gov. to go into Mexico without paying inportation duties, Here in the Brownsville,TX area where I live you can buy a 1997 Freightliner for $16.000 and start makeing $600 a day just hauling transfer loads. Regarding freight rates Mexican shippers pay much better rates than American shippers, for example a load going from Laredo,Texas to Laredo,MX pays $200 to a transfer carrier and from Laredo,MX to Monterrey,MX it pays $5000 pesos about $500 dls for a 180 miles trip that is $2.77 per mile for a load to Mexico City from Laredo,MX the rate is $15.000 pesos for a 600 mile trip (1000 KM) $2.40 per mile. See why Mexican Carriers are not interested in taking away loads from American Truckers that run for as little as $0.99 per mile
A Mexican driver doing transfers earns $200 pesos per trip and makes
an average of 3 per day that is about $60 dlls per day which is a good salray for Mexico where labor minimum wage is $55 pesos per day (about 5 dlls) In South Texas the minmum wage for labor is $5.50 per hour (about $44.00 dlls per day) so as you can see mexican driver make more money than meny americans at the South Border of the USA  Got a question, CaptainGhost. Why would they pay you $600 a day when they can hire a Mexican driver and pay him $60?
#19
04-22-2007, 01:33 PM
Originally Posted by Cam
Got a question, CaptainGhost. Why would they pay you $600 a day when they can hire a Mexican driver and pay him $60?
#20
04-22-2007, 01:41 PM
$600 Dlls per day I am talking about what the truck makes, a round trip
from Mexican yard to American Yard is about 20 miles and takes about 3 hours at 6 miles per gallon that is about 3.5 gallos per trip which pays $200 dlls that is $11 in fuel + $20 driver + $30 bridges tolls=$61 leaving $131 per trip to the truck from there you can deduct the fixed costs it will probablly leave $125 net per trip and the most humble Carriers operates over 50 trucks every day, for the long haul trips Mexican Carriers use new truck as expesive as the american new truck as a matter of fact more expensive than american trucks, in Mexico a brand new T 2000 can cost close to $ 200,000 dlls, when you fill an application with the FMCSA for your USDOT/MX # they ask you to buy insurance for $750,000 from an American Insurance Company and there is Mexican Insurance Companies that will Insure American Cariers going to Mexico |
