[draginzwagon]

I gotta put my 2 cents in I was leased to Brisk in Front Royal,VA.,
I was there about six weeks,and the only reason I went was I had to have a lease to finance my truck through my bank. I was originally going t
Landstar but do to a technicallity I could not qualify, and my truck deal wa
already in the works so I leased on with Brisk.
The biggest problem I had was at the time I was there they had about 150 operators but only had 80 loads a day. so a lot of trucks would
not get a load, and when your number came up on the broad it would be a 200 mile run to Jessup,MD. Not good! I starved there,
And don't get me started on flat rate, this is the epitome of the trucking industry.
These companies pay you .85 to .95 cents a mile so they can turn your
truck into a fixed asset.
They provide a base plate and ins to hold your truck hostage.,but you still will be deducted from your settlement.
I know there are allot of drivers that don't really understand this business
and am I by no means claiming to be a expert,but I have paid my dues
and learned,mostly the hard way.
You can't survive on flat rate,and don't be mislead by the so called freebie's, Free Tolls,Free Plates etc. your much better off leasing on with
a percentage company.
Let me give you a couple of examples why flat rate sucks for drivers and the industry as a whole.
First if the company can turn all it's trucks into a fixed asset(Brisk is a perfect example being 100% O/OP) the trucks only cost the company .93
cents per mile. Now Brisk is getting over $2.00 per mile from Sysco Foods
to do there logistics. you do the math.but the worst part is If I was to come in Sysco as a independent contractor and say would haul there freight for $1.95 I would not be able compete with Brisk because they can
go as low as a dollar amile and still turn a profit. this is the biggest reason
why freight rates are so low is because these flat rate companies have so much room in there profit margins. Independents have a very hard time competing for freight.
Next if you where to be on percentage @ $2.00 per mile at say 75% with
there trailer. you would be getting a $1.50 a mile and you would putting enough money in your pocket to survive and actually make a decent living.
I didn't mention FSC it should be paid 100% to the truck whether your on flat rate or percentage.Period!

[yoopr]

I didn't mention FSC it should be paid 100% to the truck whether your on flat rate or percentage.Period!

Amen-I don't know how a company can justify taking a penny of it with the exception deducting a few bucks for the Paper Work.

[greatwidededicated]

Brisk pays 93 cents per mile on PC Practical miles, all miles.
Fuel surcharge of 1 cent per mile for every 6 cents over $1.20
They pay stop pay
Charge back for nothing except bobtail and occupational accident a total of $36 per week and will put you at home every weekend, loaded if you live north of VA. North to Maine and over to Pittsburgh.
Very straight forward and dedicated to one customer.
They only deliver to 14 locations and its all no touch or drop and hook.

[LOAD IT]

Can you maintain your truck and family on whats left? 93cpm plus 22cpm fsc if they are honest = $1.15 minus 42cpm for high priced eastcoast fuel = 73cpm to make tractor payment, service tractor every 15k, pay insurance monthly, baseplate/permits for next year, taxes, weekly pay check, rent/mortgage, groceries, lights, gas, mamas car note, kids clothes, mamas clothes, movies, new refrigerator,etc etc. 73cpm is not going to cut it, if you are thinking of running there DONT. If you are recruiting there STOP. Let this thread die, until you get your rates up!!!!!

[greatwidededicated]

They have fuel on site in VA you fill there. No BS rand miles or short miles.
The odomoter matches or is less than the paid miles.
That's 10% better than the f&*^ing shorts other people pay no unpaid dead head miles or waiting for loads or back hauls. Hell they pay detention you wait you get paid. Give two hours, $30 for hour 3 then another $60 for hour 4 then $90 an hour after that.
You can tell me what is wrong but steady work, home time and no days waiting on loads not getting paid. You choose your loads and backhauls so you do what you want to do.

If you want more per mile run tanker on percentage, that's right no dead head pay no wash out pay and wait for loads if they can find them but a great mileage rate and you don't know when you get home, Good plan!

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by greatwidededicated

Good plan!

For a sucker who doesn't know any better. :roll:

[GMAN]

Unfortunately, you are broke. You just don't know it yet. :sad:

[LOAD IT]

Originally Posted by greatwidededicated

They have fuel on site in VA you fill there. No BS rand miles or short miles.
The odomoter matches or is less than the paid miles.
That's 10% better than the f&*^ing shorts other people pay no unpaid dead head miles or waiting for loads or back hauls. Hell they pay detention you wait you get paid. Give two hours, $30 for hour 3 then another $60 for hour 4 then $90 an hour after that.
You can tell me what is wrong but steady work, home time and no days waiting on loads not getting paid. You choose your loads and backhauls so you do what you want to do.

If you want more per mile run tanker on percentage, that's right no dead head pay no wash out pay and wait for loads if they can find them but a great mileage rate and you don't know when you get home, Good plan!

This is a man who was once burned and now he will SETTLE until he realizes he is in the fire with gasoline drawers on. Good plan!

[Dejanh]

This buisiness is a good buisiness, you can make darn good living at it if you are the type of a person who knows hot to manage your assests you can make it without a problem. Even if they paid you 2.00 per mile and you turn around and burn it in a casino or go out and buy a a 80.000 sports car( and it HAPPENS a'lot acctualy ), yeah, you'll go broke....
I know A'LOT of guys who are my friends and are making it with that 1.15 flat rate, taking care of their fammilies, have really nice house, couple of vehicles, vacationing every single year overseas and so forth, BUT NO car payments or credit of any other kind, no debt....i managed to buy my truck new after 1.5yrs running for a company HARD which some people dont like to do unfortunally, but to each its own. People bitch a'lot and i really dont like that, go back to a factory or in the city and see how hard it is to make 800 a week..


Its all about you, thats my 02 !

[Rev.Vassago]

Originally Posted by Dejanh

People bitch a'lot and i really dont like that, go back to a factory or in the city and see how hard it is to make 800 a week..

Not that hard, if you are putting in the amount of hours that most truck drivers do.

$800 / 100 hours per week = $8.00 per hour.
$800 / 70 hours per week = $11.43 per hour.

Plus you sleep in your own bed every night. :wink: