Got 2nd Over weight ticket this year...ouch $$$$

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Old 08-12-2009, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jagerbomber3.0
Very amazing that you tell everyone else that they are wrong yet you yourself are the one that came out wrong in the end. Saying you dont need a re-weigh because you understand fulcrums and know exactly where your weight went after you slid is one of the absolute most asinine things i have ever read on here. You have topped Kevin's tales in many ways on this one. And yes,for once Kevin is spot on in what he is saying in this one.
I am just completely dumbfounded by your reply to everyone on this. And the fact that you say this is your second one in a year makes it even more laughable that you tell everyone else they dont know how it works and that only you have it figured out and know how it works.


I was not wrong the scale at sapp bros was wrong , and like I said I reweighed the load on a cat scale in York ,NE at the Petro after getting my dOT ticket and I readjusted the load at 250lbs per hole and reweighed it and as expected it was legal and I had shifted about 2000lbs for 8 holes moved ...And if a scale is not accurate what would a re-weigh accomplish besides a second inaccurate re-weigh ?
 
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:26 AM
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Well Big J we all know the mile high air is going to help out your situation as everything is lighter in the Rockies....

Sapp Brothers just down the road from Quebec st, wow that brings back a memory of sitting in their parking lot back in the summer of 1981 right after graduation from high school waiting to buy an 8 ball from some chick we met the day before at a Mile High Stadium Sunday all day Concert. That was an experience even back then, Commerce City Dawg the Bounty hunter's old stommping ground..

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Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
I was not wrong the scale at sapp bros was wrong , and like I said I reweighed the load on a cat scale in York ,NE at the Petro after getting my dOT ticket and I readjusted the load at 250lbs per hole and reweighed it and as expected it was legal and I had shifted about 2000lbs for 8 holes moved ...
So you got nabbed at a scale, and they didn't make you adjust it there? Riiiiiiight.

And if a scale is not accurate what would a re-weigh accomplish besides a second inaccurate re-weigh ?
The owners of the scale would have paid your fine.
 
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Old 08-13-2009, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
The owners of the scale would have paid your fine.
Only if over gross and he had a scale ticket showing he was under, axle weights are not certified because of the exact situation that happened.

I don't doubt that the Sapp scale was wrong on the axle, but if he didn't re-weigh it there we will never know for sure.
 
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
So you got nabbed at a scale, and they didn't make you adjust it there? Riiiiiiight.



The owners of the scale would have paid your fine.

Nope the officer was going to have me readjust and pull around again ,but then decided to let me go without doing so , as they were doing recalibration on the scale and the guys were there waiting to start it , so he let me go without reweighing on their scale , wehich is also why i reweighed at the the Petro in YORK NE , as I thought maybe the dOT scale was off , But it was not it was the SAPP BROS scale .


It's not the money it was only $120.00 ,Whic in no way breaks the bank it was just that the DOT officer could see I weighed it and could have been decent enough to let me readust and roll on , Which is what they let you do if you're only 5% over axle or less ...I was 5.7 % over axled ...Heck he side stepped the rules for reweighing before I left because they were in a hurry to let the electrician get working on the scales
 
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Originally Posted by mike3fan
Only if over gross and he had a scale ticket showing he was under, axle weights are not certified because of the exact situation that happened.

I don't doubt that the Sapp scale was wrong on the axle, but if he didn't re-weigh it there we will never know for sure.

I've got the same trailer I had that day in Omaha last week hooked to my tractor sitting at the T/A in Wheatridge ,CO right now ...The day I weighed at sapp bros I needed to shift 1250lbs to the trailer tandems ,and I only had 5 holes of forward slide left on the trailer , So it was not a case where the driver slid the tandems to far ,as there were only 5 holes to be had to slide ...fool proof...and this trailer only moves 250lbs per hole you slide it ... This 250lbs per hole can be demonstrated even with an empty box .


and how would a reweigh on a bad scale show you a correct weight on a second weigh or 3rd weigh ...please elaborate on this theory , because if a scale is not working right why would it decide to do right the second time or 3rd ...lol infact I probably would just end up back at pepsi having them readust the load for no reason as they would be using weights obtained from a scale needing work ...

I just know to go into Council Bluffs and use the scales at the T/A or Pilot ...both are Cat scales and Calibrated routinely .
 
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Old 08-13-2009, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's
and how would a reweigh on a bad scale show you a correct weight on a second weigh or 3rd weigh ...please elaborate on this theory , because if a scale is not working right why would it decide to do right the second time or 3rd

Is it possible that you got a bad weigh the first time? Has that ever happened, like weighing before the truck stops sloshing or hitting the scales too hard? I could care less, and you seem to have it all figured out. You got the ticket and you have to pay. No skin off my nose.
 
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Originally Posted by BIG JEEP on 44's

and how would a reweigh on a bad scale show you a correct weight on a second weigh or 3rd weigh ...please elaborate on this theory , because if a scale is not working right why would it decide to do right the second time or 3rd ...lol infact I probably would just end up back at pepsi having them readust the load for no reason as they would be using weights obtained from a scale needing work ...
If the scale was off, it would still be off by the same amount upon the reweigh (unless they calibrated the scale between the first weigh and the reweigh). It would show you how much weight you actually moved. If only one section of the platform scale was off, then your gross weight would have drastically changed, and you would have known to take your truck elsewhere to have it scaled.
 
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Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95
Them Nebraska boys were probably laughing their hides off when you finally left. They got you overweight, your produce a certified scale ticket that shows your overweight and try to tell them your all good.........that's friggin funny right there. If you had checked your weight at least once more, you'd be $118-119 richer. You would have found you had made an error in your sliding. No matter who's right or wrong in how the weight changes when sliding everything, you still should always re-weigh no matter how good you believe you are at doing it unless of course your a SuperTrucker.

Yep or a StupidTrucker.
 
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Originally Posted by Rev.Vassago
If the scale was off, it would still be off by the same amount upon the reweigh (unless they calibrated the scale between the first weigh and the reweigh). It would show you how much weight you actually moved.

Well this trailer only moves 250lbs per slot so the scale would have shown me moving 1250lbs to the trailer . the load I pulled into denver from Phoenix with this trailer a few days later was 79,500lbs for Petsmart and Petsmart requires you to weigh the load and if not legal re-weigh with legal weights b4 leaving...well the trailer was 2500lbs over on drives ,SO I re-weighed after adjusting 250lbs per hole and as expected I moved 2500 lbs with 10 holes ... I have to agree that if I had re-weighed and had the physical ticket in hand with everything corrected showing legal axle weights on the 2nd weigh rather than just 1 ticket showing heavy drives before correction I might have a legal argument,but not having a ticket to show the correction leaves me open to critisism ...however the officer did not even look at the scale ticket and would not look at it when I attempted to show him ,as he said that ticket does not matter it's what his scale says ... this is where the 2nd ticket would allow legal argument in court ...But I don't own such a document . And since the weigh ticket does not go on my license in the state of NE I would have did what I did anyway which was paid the fine right at the scale house...Something many of those on here running their lips could not do without missing a ramen noodle meal that week...LOL
 

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