JR OTR had a pretty good hypothysis. Think i will try this sometime, one with a 30k load and doing what you did Scott, spend $11 and weigh 3 times, then do the same thing with a 45k load.

 

Dude, you were RIGHT ON with your first post.

Ever hear the expression - "QUIT WHILE YOU'RE AHEAD"?

sigh - one step forward - two steps BACK...

Rick

 

How will you have any time to do this? Won't you be behind schedule because of all the time you wasted aligning the trailers so they're all straight at the drop lot?



p.s: nice try on the sig line, but it just makes you look foolish and defintely unfunny. Seems more like a personal attack then quoting something someone said.

 

I'll not get into discussions about fulcrums and levers and such. All I can say is that I might not be qualified as an "old hand" just yet, but in 12 years and close to two million miles on the road, I have never gotten on overweight ticket I did not intend to get. I can also say that in my experience pulling all manner of reefers, boxes, enclosed auto transports, and a few tanks and flats in those 12 years, I have found that there is no absolute when it comes to how much weight is transferred from one set of axles to another by moving the trailer axles one hole. It usually ends up being between 250 and 400 lbs, but it has been less at times and more on a few other occasions.

I have never weighed at a Sapp Brothers scale, so I have no way to comment on their reliability; but I do know that if you’d have had a CAT scale ticket that shows you are legal, the boys at the NE scale would have had to think twice about writing you a ticket in the first place, and if the CAT scale turned out to be inaccurate, you’d not have had to pay the fine… CAT would have done so for you. I also know that if I was THAT close to being over axle weight, I’d have shifted 1000 lbs to my steers. In fact, I keep my steers loaded to about 12,500 lbs all the time, in part to make it a little easier to get a heavy load legal and in part to keep my trailer a little closer to the tractor in an effort to improve fuel economy.

Perhaps your experiences have been more extensive or different from mine. If so, and if you are happy with the results you are yielding by doing things the way you have been, then stick with it. I know I am happy with the results yielded by my way of doing things and thus will not change.

 

CAT scale only certifies the gross weight, they would not have done anything for being over on the axle weight.

 

I might not be an expert on that since it's never been an issue with me. If you say so, I can't disagree.

 

Put your money where your mouth is ... I weighed every load I 've ever had except 1 and that 1 cost me some cash , But during my first year of driving I weighed every load and reweighed every load ,and there was no magic any of those times it was simple if if I moved the tandems I moved 250lbs for every hole I slid them . If you're moving 400-600 lbs per hole you have an odd trailer not like one used at Werner or most big companies as youbwould only have a few holes of adjustment that move big numbers per hole unlike the trailers that have around 20+ holes and allow a finer tuned adjustment .


Now After I got my ticket from the DOT I stopped by the PETRO in York Nebraska and Reweighed it on a Cat scale ,and came up with the numbers the DOT had on their scale , And Decided to get it axle legal eventhough I was not going to cross another scale , and as usual after sliding my tandems a few holes based on the typical 250lbs per hole I reweighed and was legal ....SO YES IT WAS THE SCALE AT SAPP BROS THAT WAS OFF ,And it cost me $120.00 .


Now Like I said I'll gladly meet you to prove you wrong ...I like doing that with people in this industry .

 

My first overweight was due to not weighing the load ,and I was overgross at 84,500lbs this was not a error in sliding tandems it was simply me being lazy and never weighing the load , And yes on the typical trailer you will move 250lbs per hole when you slide the tandems ...like I said I'll gladly prove this day in and day out on my home time if anyone on here who knows better is in the Denver area ...Wink ...I think you might need to do some learning , And like I said anyone on here passing through Denver who wants it proved to them that the typical trailer shifts 250lbs per hole when slid I'll gladly meet you at any truck stop in the Denver area , and I will pay for every scale ticket , and you will owe me a public description on CAD of what took place on the scale when weighed and re-weighed ...Or do we want to just keep it on CAD where you can't be proved wrong ?

 

No way to say what would have been the outcome since the scale was not correct , As I stated I reweighed the load on a cat scale in York,NE after getting my ticket ,and readjusted it about 8 holes...2000lbs and RE-Weighed it and was good to go as expected ...Like I said the scale at sapp bros was off , And since it was off no weights obtained from it can be used as measurement to adjust the load be it 1st weigh 2nd ,3rd ...and so on .

 

Yep it will be consistant per hole , and the weight moved per hole depends on the space between the holes the bigger the space the more the weight moved per hole ...the trailer I had on the pepsi load is just like the wabash trailers at Werner and is about 250lbs per hole ...your trailer has larger gaps between holes than the wabash I had so it is more per hole than 250 . What the peanut gallery is failing to read is that i reweighed this load after getting a ticket and readjusted the load based at ...250lbs...per hole and was good 2 go , and that the weights given to me by the sapp brois scale was just wrong , and since the scale was wrong even a re-weigh would be wrong on that scale .