we are PROFESSIONALS, yeah??
#41
01-24-2009, 07:44 AM
see, that is where the problem lies. you think (and maybe you dont) that you should get a 'atta boy' or a pat on the back for doing something like that. I dont think so. i could care less if it gets noticed. I could care less if someone says, "hey, that looks good..." I'm just sayin' if someone sees me actually doing it...or sees nice neat trailers, they might take the time the next time they drop to actually line up the headers of the trailers. They might take a few extra seconds to atleast come close to not looking like they dont care.
What do you see when an aircraft carrier has several planes on the deck. they are all nice and neat. (granted out of the need to preserve deck space) but because they are professional. Either i spend 15 minutes adjusting 30 MT trailers, or 30 drivers take 5 seconds to care about doing a good job. what is 5 seconds??
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#42
01-24-2009, 11:50 AM
HawkJr, you have to understand that I take pride in what I do. And even though others may not treat me like it, I always like to act like the professional I want to be treated like, than the piece of meat that they sometimes treat me like. It doesn't matter that others don't care...I do. And I know that there are at least a few more like me, so I'm not quite alone, here!
Now I can understand why you feel that way, but I will not settle for "good enough" just because nobody may be looking, or even care. I like to do it right. :thumbsup: And Kevin, I do agree with your point here. But the analogy to the military isn't likely to win many over...I spent four years in the Army, and like Stan just said, most of the "professionalism" was demanded from a superior who wanted to look good for his evaluation reports, rather than the grunt doing the labor.... Last edited by TomB985; 01-24-2009 at 11:53 AM.
#43
01-24-2009, 02:06 PM
Why stop at sweeping out trailers? What about all the drivers who bump the tires, know one is low or flat, run it 500 miles to the next location and drop it, as was ... or dropped a trailer with "known issues".
So many responsible drivers get tired of being one of the few who take the time-loss necessary to get matters fixed, and finally get fed up taking care of matters that should have been taken care of by previous drivers, and join the rank of those who say "screw it" and join those that caused him so much grief in the past ... then we get what we have now. A situation that is difficult to correct. Now, I worked for a small flatbed company and pulled the same trailer(eg. flat, stepdeck, curtain, etc.) while I am OTR for a few weeks. Some of the trailers are old, but I know what I am getting when I leave the yard. I think I have had 1 flat tire, and a failed brake chamber in the last year. With that dry van company it was every week or two that I had to take trailer to a repair shop cuz the last driver dropped it with OOS issue.
#44
01-24-2009, 02:09 PM
i would be willing to bet that it isnt so much 'orders' from the captian, but in the navy ops manual.
#45
01-24-2009, 06:32 PM
Kevin0915 said:
When dropping a trailer in a lot of MTs, is it really that hard to line up the header of the trailer with the next one?
Also, we are better than John Q. Public when it comes to parking in a lot when snow covers the lines.
no courtsey in our profession anymore.
Sounds to me like you have OCD! Every spoon and fork JUST the right distance from the other! Geez! When I'm sittin' there waiting to park for the night, or get into a slot at a shipper/receiver... the LAST thing I want is to wait for a perfectionist to "line things up" perfectly, even if it takes him 30 pullups and 45 minutes! :hellno: Yeah, I take PRIDE in what I do. But, I'm good enough at it to accomplish my task in a MINIMUM amount of time and effort. Those who aren't, I just want them to stick it in there any way they can do it, so I can get on with MY day! This is NOT the deck of the Forestall! We are NOT in the military. And this ain't the Ritz Carlton. For the record, when I WAS in Basic Training, I had the LEAST demerits of anyone in my Squadron. That means my chit was right and tight.... nearly ALL the time! Maybe, that's one reason why I don't drop sloppy! But, my fellow truckers out there aren't always so well behaved. And I just don't CARE! I want them to get the job done as quickly as possible, and get OUT OF MY WAY! Trucking can be a dirty, messy job! As I often say..... it ain't a job for WUSSES! Folding your shorts in a six inch square just doesn't impress me! You want to be a professional? Show me on the ROAD! In a drop yard or a truckstop, I just want you to park it and get out of my way! If Werner wants to park his truck over the line.... the rest of us will adjust accordingly! Just learn to raise the toilet seat before you pizz, flush when you're done, and throw your trash in the appropriate can and I'LL be happy! I bet you went to Catholic school, didn't you?
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#46
01-25-2009, 01:19 AM
Kevin0915 said:
Yes, it CAN be. Many yards are DARK when SOME of us drop our trailers. Others have incoherent lighting. Not all drivers have the same depth perception. ARE we? REALLY? We ARE John Q. Public.... we just drive trucks. And YOU'VE been driving HOW LONG to make such a claim?? :hellno: Sounds to me like you have OCD! Every spoon and fork JUST the right distance from the other! Geez! When I'm sittin' there waiting to park for the night, or get into a slot at a shipper/receiver... the LAST thing I want is to wait for a perfectionist to "line things up" perfectly, even if it takes him 30 pullups and 45 minutes! :hellno: Yeah, I take PRIDE in what I do. But, I'm good enough at it to accomplish my task in a MINIMUM amount of time and effort. Those who aren't, I just want them to stick it in there any way they can do it, so I can get on with MY day! This is NOT the deck of the Forestall! We are NOT in the military. And this ain't the Ritz Carlton. For the record, when I WAS in Basic Training, I had the LEAST demerits of anyone in my Squadron. That means my chit was right and tight.... nearly ALL the time! Maybe, that's one reason why I don't drop sloppy! But, my fellow truckers out there aren't always so well behaved. And I just don't CARE! I want them to get the job done as quickly as possible, and get OUT OF MY WAY! Trucking can be a dirty, messy job! As I often say..... it ain't a job for WUSSES! Folding your shorts in a six inch square just doesn't impress me! You want to be a professional? Show me on the ROAD! In a drop yard or a truckstop, I just want you to park it and get out of my way! If Werner wants to park his truck over the line.... the rest of us will adjust accordingly! Just learn to raise the toilet seat before you pizz, flush when you're done, and throw your trash in the appropriate can and I'LL be happy! I bet you went to Catholic school, didn't you? and Tom i completely understand and i respect that.. but on my end, seeing trailers lined up at a shipper is the least of my concern.. as long as i can put my trailer in that hole and there's not another trailer stopping me from doing that.. its fine by me.. like i said in my previous post.. if all the trailers are lined up according and then i will slot my trailer accordingly 
#47
01-25-2009, 01:38 AM
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: the Buckeye
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I understand how Kevin feels but I also know that I cannot control it. As long as I can do what I have to do I could care less. Except in my own yard. We have a small yard and space is limited. The area where our dollies go is big enough to go 3 wide and start building rows from the back to the front. When we come in off the road instead splitting down our set all the way we back the dolly in while still connected to the front pup. It takes alot of skill and some are better than others. Basically its laziness. What happens is the dolly gets dropped where ever the driver could get it in and it looks like crap and takes up alot of space. The right way is using the tractor after splitting all the way down but thats an extra step which requires a whopping 2 extra minutes. So when its my yard and it makes myself and all the road drivers look bad then yeah I have a problem with that. And I have been known to straighten out a couple dollies from time to time when I cant stand looking at it.
#48
01-25-2009, 02:15 AM
does it matter? i'm a DRIVER, just like you. You may have more experience, and much more crazy skills than i do, but guess what, you were in my shoes once. Dont get all butt-hurt because you dont want to remember back that far. no kidding, i was using that as an example. never once did i say 'we should be like the military. if that was the case, we'd invade Canada and Mexico with our big trucks, and beat up the other company drivers over there till their companies folded. thats would me the american military way. I was catholic till i reached the age of reason.
#49
01-25-2009, 04:16 AM
How does that go????
Lord, give me the strength to deal with the things I can control... The patience to accept the things I can not control... And, the WISDOM to know the difference... Or something to that effect.....
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#50
01-25-2009, 04:24 AM
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Yet Golfhobo seems to show back up every time!:lol:
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