[TomB985]

Originally Posted by Ronin

I'll not cross a union line. Ever. I'm not in a union and have never been in one but I respect people who are willing to fight for what's right.

Kinda funny...."what is right".....

So that means the unions are always right, and are NEVER unreasonable?

IMHO unions are often as greedy as people seem to think businessmen are....

[Mr. Ford95]

I agree, unions are greedy as heck and I don't like them. That said, I will say it again, don't cross a picket line if your union. My dad did it as a scab in the mid-90's and it was not a fun experience going into Youngstown(mafia-town) Ohio and Boston as part of a strike busting team.

[Snowman7]

Originally Posted by TomB985

Kinda funny...."what is right".....

So that means the unions are always right, and are NEVER unreasonable?

IMHO unions are often as greedy as people seem to think businessmen are....

First of all unions only represent the workers. The workers vote on the contract, any concessions, whether or not they want to strike, they vote on everything. The union only negotiates what the workers want. So if too much greed is involved the workers must bear alot of the blame. Alot of people blame unions for their own problems because someone else always has to be at fault. Some of the people who hate the unions the most are ex members who had unrealistic expectations of what their union could do for them.

Perhaps rather than saying union members fight for what's right a better description might be that they fight for what they believe in.

Its okay with me if you want to hate unions, you're entitled to your opinion. You either like them or you hate them but either way if someone stands up for what they believe in then I respect them. In the words of John Cougar Mellencamp "you have to stand for something or you'll fall for anything."

Like I always say, if corporations always did the right thing we wouldnt have to fight for what we believe in. My sister in law and many of her coworkers just got canned two days ago in a downsizing. She had 20 years in but junior employees were retained. Non union company. I'm sure there's two sides to every coin but on the surface it just seems wrong. I'm sure things like higher salaries and more vacation weeks didn't enter into the company's decision, right?

[zipy46]

If you are coming up to a shipper or receiver and they are blocking your

entrance..

I would just call dispatch and tell them whats happening...no need to

get injured or in the middle of some greed fest for cpm wages :arrow:

[coalregion]

Originally Posted by Mackman

I would not cross it.

Weather im union or not.

What he said.(Maybe it's a PA kind of thing? :wink: )

[HWD]

Originally Posted by TomB985

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So that means the unions are always right, and are NEVER unreasonable?

The vast majority of the time, it's the company being unreasonable, not the union.

[jonp]

I would not let the union picket impact me one way or the other. If the people in the union want to strike that is thier business. I dont choose to strike and unless they threatened me with violence I would go in a pick-up the load. In this global economy the unions better get thier head out of thier butts. One of the reasons jobs are going overseas is because of the unions and the wage/benefit demands that make the cost of doing business here prohibitive. I dont care if someone wants to join a union, its still a free country, however, i will not let a union thug tell me if, where and when I can work. If I'm so unhappy with my job that I would strike then I would quit and find a new job. One of the first posts on this subject mentioned that a worker sat home before the company was sold to Verizon. Gee...think that might have had something to do with it? Personaly If I owned a company and someone came in to "organize" the place I would call a big company meeting with all of the workers and make it plain: "I put my money at stake in this business, Its my good name and credit at stake here and I'm taking all of the financial risk. Before I let someone come in and tell me how to run my own business I will shut this place down, move it overseas and you can find a job elsewhere." Now feel free to vote anyway that you choose.

[TomB985]

Originally Posted by HWD

The vast majority of the time, it's the company being unreasonable, not the union.

Of COURSE it is! I mean, I've never, EVER heard of someone asking for more than they're worth...have you? :P

[Double R]

One of the first posts on this subject mentioned that a worker sat home before the company was sold to Verizon.Gee...think that might have had something to do with it?

Nope. Verizon is still union.

That poster might want to double-check thier facts:

Verizon Communications Inc. (NYSE: VZ) is an American broadband and telecommunications company and a component of the Dow Jones Industrial Average. It was formed in 2000 when Bell Atlantic, one of the Regional Bell Operating Companies, merged with GTE. Prior to its transformation into Verizon, Bell Atlantic had merged with another Regional Bell Operating Company, NYNEX, in 1997.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon

[belpre122]

That's a very very tough call to me. Things never return to the same after one of these strikes. I understand that people end up in positions where they simply have to provide food, In the area I grew up (some of you may remember Kaiser Aluminum and how that situation tore that area apart. My thoughts are, keep as far distance as you can. Things do happen though,
Be careful.