How are you supposed to Log split sleeper berth time ??
#31
12-15-2007, 12:31 AM
Originally Posted by headborg
Originally Posted by Cat6869
Yeah but taking 10 sometimes is not always feasible. Many times 1 hour makes a difference on a driver getting the load there on time or getting home on time. Would you rather be legal or illegal? Know you regulations and how to use them and then you will know when to use them to "YOUR" advantage :lol: But, they say....better trip planning can avoid this problem.... or, "Well, if the schedule is that tight....we will just RESCHEDULE it the following day. There's another 24hrs for you. I just don't get these companies that say don't split break because they are actually losing money in many cases and the driver loses miles. I agree if you don't need to split then don't! But if you could use it and need miles go for it!
#32
12-15-2007, 01:52 AM
Originally Posted by Cat6869
Originally Posted by headborg
Originally Posted by Cat6869
Yeah but taking 10 sometimes is not always feasible. Many times 1 hour makes a difference on a driver getting the load there on time or getting home on time. Would you rather be legal or illegal? Know you regulations and how to use them and then you will know when to use them to "YOUR" advantage :lol: But, they say....better trip planning can avoid this problem.... or, "Well, if the schedule is that tight....we will just RESCHEDULE it the following day. There's another 24hrs for you. I just don't get these companies that say don't split break because they are actually losing money in many cases and the driver loses miles. I agree if you don't need to split then don't! But if you could use it and need miles go for it! Risk Management/Loss Prevention is Key to Cost Accounting--- They got to control their costs-- Like Hobo just pointed out above---a tired driver can mess up a log book real easy by just bad math 7.5+7.5=14--only when you're brain dead add to that a driver the "don't fully" understand the rules. 1 driver can get the company fined big $$$$ for a small math error on paper. then it takes 100 loads @ .10 profit per loaded mile to pay for that fine. it takes 100 drivers to make you; but only 1 driver can break you.
#33
12-15-2007, 07:23 AM
Originally Posted by headborg
Like Hobo just pointed out above---a tired driver can mess up a log book real easy by just bad math 7.5+7.5=14--only when you're brain dead
add to that a driver the "don't fully" understand the rules. 1 driver can get the company fined big $$$$ for a small math error on paper. then it takes 100 loads @ .10 profit per loaded mile to pay for that fine. it takes 100 drivers to make you; but only 1 driver can break you. Even if your company won't accept them you can still use it to make sure you are not in violation. kc0iv
#34
12-15-2007, 01:23 PM
Originally Posted by headborg
Originally Posted by Cat6869
Originally Posted by headborg
Originally Posted by Cat6869
Yeah but taking 10 sometimes is not always feasible. Many times 1 hour makes a difference on a driver getting the load there on time or getting home on time. Would you rather be legal or illegal? Know you regulations and how to use them and then you will know when to use them to "YOUR" advantage :lol: But, they say....better trip planning can avoid this problem.... or, "Well, if the schedule is that tight....we will just RESCHEDULE it the following day. There's another 24hrs for you. I just don't get these companies that say don't split break because they are actually losing money in many cases and the driver loses miles. I agree if you don't need to split then don't! But if you could use it and need miles go for it! Risk Management/Loss Prevention is Key to Cost Accounting--- They got to control their costs-- Like Hobo just pointed out above---a tired driver can mess up a log book real easy by just bad math 7.5+7.5=14--only when you're brain dead add to that a driver the "don't fully" understand the rules. 1 driver can get the company fined big $$$$ for a small math error on paper. then it takes 100 loads @ .10 profit per loaded mile to pay for that fine. it takes 100 drivers to make you; but only 1 driver can break you. I see their point on not letting you split sometimes, however I feel they are ripping the "driver" off of miles. All it takes is training them on the regulation and making sure they understand. Then maybe when they see the freight income/versus the fines from DOT maybe they will realize "I was right" :lol: I mean what do I really have to gain by teaching a driver how to split break? I don't get a bonus and it gives me more work to do. So if I didn't believe I was right, I wouldn't teach you it :lol:
#35
12-16-2007, 02:51 AM
Cat6869 said:
But it takes one driver (this is very common) to mess up on his 10 hour break also, the many times only take 9.75 hours (or a little less) which means they are in violation as well. I get more of these than I do a driver split breaking incorrectly. Usually if you are caught split breaking incorrectly the officer will just teach them the correct way (sometimes wrong way) and give them a warning. NOT ALWAYS, most of the time though.
I see their point on not letting you split sometimes, however I feel they are ripping the "driver" off of miles. All it takes is training them on the regulation and making sure they understand. Then maybe when they see the freight income/versus the fines from DOT maybe they will realize "I was right" I mean what do I really have to gain by teaching a driver how to split break? I don't get a bonus and it gives me more work to do. So if I didn't believe I was right, I wouldn't teach you it
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#36
12-16-2007, 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by golfhobo
Cat6869 said:
But it takes one driver (this is very common) to mess up on his 10 hour break also, the many times only take 9.75 hours (or a little less) which means they are in violation as well. I get more of these than I do a driver split breaking incorrectly. Usually if you are caught split breaking incorrectly the officer will just teach them the correct way (sometimes wrong way) and give them a warning. NOT ALWAYS, most of the time though.
I see their point on not letting you split sometimes, however I feel they are ripping the "driver" off of miles. All it takes is training them on the regulation and making sure they understand. Then maybe when they see the freight income/versus the fines from DOT maybe they will realize "I was right" I mean what do I really have to gain by teaching a driver how to split break? I don't get a bonus and it gives me more work to do. So if I didn't believe I was right, I wouldn't teach you it
#39
12-16-2007, 03:58 PM
JUST my luck! I'm heading OUT for a week! :shock: :roll:
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