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LA to Cleveland 11-30-2007 09:31 PM

How are you supposed to Log split sleeper berth time ??
 
What's the correct way to do it ?

Uturn2001 12-01-2007 01:40 AM

8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth and a 2 hour break which can be either off duty, sleeper berth or combo. Just be sure that you do not drive after the 14th hour since coming on duty and that you do not have more than 11 hours of drive time between the two segments.

headborg 12-01-2007 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Uturn2001
8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth and a 2 hour break which can be either off duty, sleeper berth or combo. Just be sure that you do not drive after the 14th hour since coming on duty and that you do not have more than 11 hours of drive time between the two segments.

And add to that: to remember that the 2 hr break does not stop the 14hr clock. you will have to start the 8 hr break before the 14th hour from the point where you completed your last full 10 hr break. Or do the math and make sure you always count the 2 hr breaks against the 14hr clock.

also remember the 8 consecutive hrs in the berth ONLY stops the 14hr clock...you will never start over(or RESET) the 14hr clock until you do a solid 10hr break. After completing a 8 hr break...you go back to where you came off your last 2hr break(or the end of any break that was more than 2hr-yet less than 8hrs-n sleeper) and then subtract all the duty time(lines 3&4) from 14---this tells you where your next 2 hour break must start at. Next from the end of that 8 hr break-count forward 14hrs and this is where your next 8hr break will need to start by.

Creek Jackson 12-01-2007 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by headborg

Originally Posted by Uturn2001
8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth and a 2 hour break which can be either off duty, sleeper berth or combo. Just be sure that you do not drive after the 14th hour since coming on duty and that you do not have more than 11 hours of drive time between the two segments.

And add to that: to remember that the 2 hr break does not stop the 14hr clock. you will have to start the 8 hr break before the 14th hour from the point where you completed your last full 10 hr break. Or do the math and make sure you always count the 2 hr breaks against the 14hr clock.

also remember the 8 consecutive hrs in the berth ONLY stops the 14hr clock...you will never start over(or RESET) the 14hr clock until you do a solid 10hr break. After completing a 8 hr break...you go back to where you came off your last 2hr break(or the end of any break that was more than 2hr-yet less than 8hrs-n sleeper) and then subtract all the duty time(lines 3&4) from 14---this tells you where your next 2 hour break must start at. Next from the end of that 8 hr break-count forward 14hrs and this is where your next 8hr break will need to start by.

I need a two hour break after just reading that. :wink:

Creek

headborg 12-01-2007 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Creek Jackson

Originally Posted by headborg

Originally Posted by Uturn2001
8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth and a 2 hour break which can be either off duty, sleeper berth or combo. Just be sure that you do not drive after the 14th hour since coming on duty and that you do not have more than 11 hours of drive time between the two segments.

And add to that: to remember that the 2 hr break does not stop the 14hr clock. you will have to start the 8 hr break before the 14th hour from the point where you completed your last full 10 hr break. Or do the math and make sure you always count the 2 hr breaks against the 14hr clock.

also remember the 8 consecutive hrs in the berth ONLY stops the 14hr clock...you will never start over(or RESET) the 14hr clock until you do a solid 10hr break. After completing a 8 hr break...you go back to where you came off your last 2hr break(or the end of any break that was more than 2hr-yet less than 8hrs-n sleeper) and then subtract all the duty time(lines 3&4) from 14---this tells you where your next 2 hour break must start at. Next from the end of that 8 hr break-count forward 14hrs and this is where your next 8hr break will need to start by.

I need a two hour break after just reading that. :wink:

Creek

and I need to edit it because it's wrong....easier to look at it on a graph than try explaining it....

edit: you have to subtract all the time between the 2hr break and 8hr break from 14 that gives you the remainer of time you have before your next 2 hr break.

thebaldeagle655 12-01-2007 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by headborg

Originally Posted by Creek Jackson

Originally Posted by headborg

Originally Posted by Uturn2001
8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth and a 2 hour break which can be either off duty, sleeper berth or combo. Just be sure that you do not drive after the 14th hour since coming on duty and that you do not have more than 11 hours of drive time between the two segments.

And add to that: to remember that the 2 hr break does not stop the 14hr clock. you will have to start the 8 hr break before the 14th hour from the point where you completed your last full 10 hr break. Or do the math and make sure you always count the 2 hr breaks against the 14hr clock.

also remember the 8 consecutive hrs in the berth ONLY stops the 14hr clock...you will never start over(or RESET) the 14hr clock until you do a solid 10hr break. After completing a 8 hr break...you go back to where you came off your last 2hr break(or the end of any break that was more than 2hr-yet less than 8hrs-n sleeper) and then subtract all the duty time(lines 3&4) from 14---this tells you where your next 2 hour break must start at. Next from the end of that 8 hr break-count forward 14hrs and this is where your next 8hr break will need to start by.

I need a two hour break after just reading that. :wink:

Creek

and I need to edit it because it's wrong....easier to look at it on a graph than try explaining it....

edit: you have to subtract all the time between the 2hr break and 8hr break from 14 that gives you the remainer of time you have before your next 2 hr break.

And now you know why most companies won't let you use the split sleeper berth!!!

LA to Cleveland 12-02-2007 08:41 PM

Thanks drivers !!

12-03-2007 10:12 AM

As you can see, the new rules pretty much eliminated the split. Because why take an 8-hour break and split when you can just do your 10 and get a fresh 14 back? Only in very specific cases does it make sense to split.

They got rid of it (or modified it, I guess) because alot of guys were abusing the split. That took some money out of alot of guy's pockets and made it harder on the drivers running legal and taking shorter breaks. But leave it to truckers to ruin a good thing....along with parking, good wages, public perception, etc.

headborg 12-03-2007 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by ColdFrostyMug
As you can see, the new rules pretty much eliminated the split. Because why take an 8-hour break and split when you can just do your 10 and get a fresh 14 back? Only in very specific cases does it make sense to split.

They got rid of it (or modified it, I guess) because alot of guys were abusing the split. That took some money out of alot of guy's pockets and made it harder on the drivers running legal and taking shorter breaks. But leave it to truckers to ruin a good thing....along with parking, good wages, public perception, etc.

It was "got rid of" for one simple reason---so DOT officers could very simply look at a graph and issue $$$ tickets without having to actually count up 1 & 2&3.5+ there's 6hrs of a 10hr break & over here is the other 4hrs/ that takes time.

With adding 2 times as many drivers(Marks) on the roadway...it's important to be able to process them through the scale(revenue office) at a faster pace...simplify the math for everyone who's OUT to pick your pocket. OH, and making driver's RUSH to make all they can before the clock strikes 14- Somehow is suppose to be more "healthy" for drivers.....They did it for us..they are concerned about OUR HEALTH....Yeah Right!

Drew10 12-03-2007 02:04 PM

What really makes me wonder... What "genius" though the new split break makes any sense. (obviously there is very little use for it).

You can split the break with an 8 and 2 or 2 and 8. The 2hr break can be logged on line 1 or 2 (whichever is appropriate), however the 8hr break must be on line 2. This basically forces the driver into the bunk (at least to try and sleep). However....
If you do not split the break and take a continuous 10hr. This may be logged all on line 2 or all on line 1 or any combination, just so long as you are off duty for 10 continuous hrs. This actually doesnt ensure the driver gets any rest at all if it is all logged on line 1 :? . Driver could spend the entire 10hrs in the T/S (or wherever) floppin around with video games, watchin movies, playin with the Lizards etc :wink: ....but doesnt ensure any actual "bunk" time.
Kinda makes you wonder what rocket scientist figured this one out. :roll:


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