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Old 07-08-2007, 05:26 PM
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And DD60 you are a dangerous man.....if you knew what you was talking about you might turn into an expert. Success leasing is part of Prime and the trucks are leased from Freightliner to Prime to Success leasing to the drivers that want to lease.

If you want to lease a truck at Freightliner go ahead and the lease to any company you want but you need to have a big down payment and great credit to do so. The payments are half of Primes and when you reach the end of you lease you still dont own the truck....Thats why its called a lease.

At Prime, Mr Low gets those trucks for those of us that dont have $20,000 or more to put down and less than stellar credit. Success manages those trucks for Mr Low and cycles them as their aggreement with Freightliner. Difference is when you complete your lease with Success you get a lease completion bonus that can amount to several thousand dollars. And you still dont own the truck.

Wil-trans is not Owned by Prime but they do pull Primes trailers. Unless things have changed over there they take on small fleet owners and I believe they have may have a lease to own program but I am not sure. I believe all of Wil-trans trucks are Petes.
 
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Thanks century 241 finally someone who knows what they are actually talking about. To the critics who proof read my statements thanks, but you dont need to be able to spell or talk english to be a trucker. As for my age of being 25 I've probably accomplished alot more then your old senile ass, but hey since your older I guess that jus makes you a genius, every older person is a genius right? As for myself I was trying to give the person who wrote the forum some positive info coming from someone who is going through the same procedures he is about to go into. I havent experienced anything but good from prime thus far there pay and training is alot better then the thousands of trucking companies why ? how do I know you might ask ? I do alot of talking investigating and research I never jump into things, I'm glad I didnt listen to the negative people out there. I could care less if im going to be out making money im using this as a stepping stone so i can have lots of experience and money saved when i become a local driver
 
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:42 AM
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talk english to be a trucker
Yes you DO need to be able to speak english to be a trucker. Go look at the DOT rules.(although it seems anymore that the rule does not apply)
 
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Originally Posted by gbigtym
Thanks century 241 finally someone who knows what they are actually talking about. To the critics who proof read my statements thanks, but you dont need to be able to spell or talk english to be a trucker. As for my age of being 25 I've probably accomplished alot more then your old senile ass, but hey since your older I guess that jus makes you a genius, every older person is a genius right? As for myself I was trying to give the person who wrote the forum some positive info coming from someone who is going through the same procedures he is about to go into. I havent experienced anything but good from prime thus far there pay and training is alot better then the thousands of trucking companies why ? how do I know you might ask ? I do alot of talking investigating and research I never jump into things, I'm glad I didnt listen to the negative people out there. I could care less if im going to be out making money im using this as a stepping stone so i can have lots of experience and money saved when i become a local driver
Obviously you never accomplished a high school diploma! :roll:
 
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gbigtym- Why are you going through the hassle of leasing a truck? If your goal is to be a local driver, why not be a company driver for a year and go after a local position?

Usually people who lease are trying to get money and credit to eventually buy a truck and be an O/O.
 
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by century451
CFI pay for a newbie is less than Primes so why you still stiring the pot?
Because..... while a "newbie" at CFI starts lower, by the end of the first year they are 35 cpm paid on PRACTICAL MILES, not hoser HHG miles, and if they are dispatched into any of the 12 NE states they get an additional 5 cpm per dispatched miles, again paid on PRACTICAL MILES, not hoser HHG miles, and if they have a Hazmat Endorsement and pull a Placarded load, they are paid an extra 3 cpm, again paid on PRACTICAL MILES, not hoser HHG miles.

Any more questions??? 8)

Oh, and CFI doesn't have to spend a fortune on lawyers to defend them from their own people..... :shock:

And one other thing.... Every driver I knew that left CFI to try to do the Prime thing.....went back to CFI. That speaks volumes. They made more money at CFI, as company drivers, than as drivers at PRIME.

Aren't you happy you asked now? 8)
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by century451
And how much experiance do you have oh wise one?
My experience level is "significant", though while that is the case, I am still junior to some people in the industry, and learn something new most every day. I have 14 years experience with Dry Vans and Chemical Tankers.

Lets compare newbie to newbie not what you made unless you are head to head in experiance. Now seeing as how you are quite the wealth of information tell me about CFI's Lease program Seeing as how you brain surgeons keep talking trash about a lease program when The poster is asking about company driver.
Uh, I already explained how and what a "newbie" at CFI makes....as well as the pay progression. I've explained it many times....take the time to search the forum and you'll see it. I also explained the difference between HHG miles versus Practical Miles. They are apples and oranges in comparison. I haven't said squat about their lease program because he asked about being a company driver... Is your reading comprehension "stunted"?

Simply put: CFI does not have a lease program. They have not had one for some time..... But then, how is it that a rocket scientist such as yourself did not know that??? :P

I can see why you signed a lease there..... :P

Lets see, you signed a lease, took full legal and financial responsibility for a truck which may have been previously leased....without knowing :dung: about the previous driver and how it was treated, then you virtually indenture yourself to a company and its owner who has built several layers of profit into the scheme....and you are lining his families pockets coming and going, all the while footing the bill for virtually everything.

Yes, the lease is "wonderful"....so that must explain why PRIME is one of the most sued companies in America.....and sued by its own employees/contractors.

Please, don't continue to embarass yourself..... in case you haven't noticed or realized it yet.... I'm not one of those people with any ax to grind nor do I possess an iota of inclination to feed invalid information to anyone. Save your energies for driving and keeping your lease payments current.
 
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gbigtym
To the critics who proof read my statements thanks, but you dont need to be able to spell or talk english to be a trucker.
Actually, yes you do need to, lest you identify yourself with the legions of crackerheaded ignoramusses of the world. But if you feel comfortable wearing that mantle....have at it.

As for my age of being 25 I've probably accomplished alot more then your old senile ass,
Maybe in your dreams.....but I'll bet without a reservation that you are full of :dung: on this one, and I would be happy to take the next couple of years of pay out of your pocket. Frankly, my resume starts at the age of 13 when I ran my own business, made money...more than many adults, and was followed up when I joined the Army at age 17 in 1967, and was the first 17 year old in the United States to be licensed by the FAA as an Air Traffic Controller. Its a long and successful resume.....but if you want, you can shovel all the bovine feces you wish....but I can prove mine, can you?

but hey since your older I guess that jus makes you a genius, every older person is a genius right?
No, not necessarily. I might be just a little less than a "genius", but then, I'm no fool either. All one has to do is turn on a CB, or just look around and you would know that all "older people" are not geniuses. But on the other hand.... there are those older people, who possessing a fair modicum of experience, maturity, and knowledge who are assets to the communities to which they belong.

As for myself I was trying to give the person who wrote the forum some positive info coming from someone who is going through the same procedures he is about to go into. I havent experienced anything but good from prime thus far there pay and training is alot better then the thousands of trucking companies why ? how do I know you might ask ? I do alot of talking investigating and research I never jump into things, I'm glad I didnt listen to the negative people out there. I could care less if im going to be out making money im using this as a stepping stone so i can have lots of experience and money saved when i become a local driver
You are just starting out, haven't really scratched the surface, have been in direct contact with the "propaganda pipeline" and have been fed and told precisely what they want you to hear. Good experience. Frankly, having been an instructor and finisher.... I personally find their "training program" to be little more than an extended version of indentured servitude of sorts....and a real cheap way for them to run a team.... you being paid as cheaply as you are relative to the miles you're expected to turn.....but hey its all worth it right? Whooop-whoooop, my truck go fast!!

I hope you do find success and happiness, not just there, but in life. Unfortunately....many have not at PRIME. Sad but true.
 
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Originally Posted by greg3564
gbigtym- Why are you going through the hassle of leasing a truck? If your goal is to be a local driver, why not be a company driver for a year and go after a local position?

Usually people who lease are trying to get money and credit to eventually buy a truck and be an O/O.
Thats easy...."chrome, fast truck, can call hisself a owna-operatah" ....whooop, whooop!!

I wonder if he thinks the Onion is a real newspaper....??
 
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Well Skywalker thats what I wanted to hear, I know CFI doesnt have a lease program but yet you compare a company with a lease program with a company that doesnt have one.

All Lease companies that have a lease program have to defend it with trivial law suits brought on by all the do gooders that are making a profit for that defense. Maybe if the people that signed those leases would have read them and understood them then they wouldnt have to cry to the ACLU of trucking cause they lost money.

They whole point I have been trying to make is compare apples with apples. The lease program at Prime does not have a thing to do with the company driver program the original poster was asking about.

Additioanlly I saw on the Prime web site that the pay for a company driver tops out at something like 60 cents a mile with experiance. Having been both at Prime, I can say I made good money with the lease because I had a good dispatcher. I enjoyed the company driver program the best because I didnt have to spend my dime on fuel, refer fuel, fuel tax, road taxes, lease payment, maintenance and repairs, insurance or paying the wages of a second driver to run team and their insurance and taxes and best of all I paid no lumpers. I havent leased since Prime bought Rocor and started their company division. I retired the first of June to enjoy the fruits of my labor over the years.

I dont talk trash about companies I have never worked for and those of you on this board that do are just like those drivers asking if its snowing in Flagstaff when they are in Arkansas.......wasting oxygen and energy.

And I believe the most sued company in America may be Walmart.....they have definately been sued more than Prime.
 

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