My SO is still pretty new and is currently driving flatbed OTR (linehaul). He (we) are a little confused as to what to do with this load... :?

He picked up a load assignment from upstate WA, which is a 2500 load - 1st drop in Tulsa on the 20th (am dlvr), the 2nd to TX (500 mi) the next day. Here is where this is getting tricky for him:

He was on hometime after 8 weeks out until leaving on the 12th, so no hours prior to that. He left on the 12th and had 12.5 hours on duty, driving & loading. He p/u in Calexico, delivered to WA, then p/u this load on Friday, 3/16. He had appx 36 hours available prior to picking up the load. As this was a 2500 assignment, he discussed it w/his DM by phone to ensure he would have hours available to get to Tulsa - his QC is out & will be until he touches down in Tulsa - no way to create written confirmation of anything at this time.

Starting out this am, 3/18, he had 10.5 available on his 70 (w/around 1000 mi to go). How can he best deliver to Tulsa on time?

Does he have any hours he can add tomorrow (Monday)?

If he resets, will he make delivery on time in Tulsa?

With his DM out until Monday am he's reluctant to discuss by phone w/weekend dispatch (who he doesn't know) w/no way to confirm by QC... any LEGAL suggestions/advice?

 

sounds to me like e needs to learn to manage is hours better on his onduty time to cut it down and trim to save time for the week.. now if you log 12.5 and 10.5 everyday you will run out of hours before the week is over and have a reset everyweek... I can go out 8 weeks and never have a reset. I was told to log it legal, well I make it look legal and they are legal.. I manage around my fuel stops, I like to fuel and do a pretrip at the same time, rather than log a pretrip then log a fuel stop 3 hours later and loose those 15 minutes which can be used later like tomorrow.. I spend alot of time plannin my trip and know when and where to stop and how long it should take me... legally...

as to your question it sounds like he won't make it on time, unless a reset is done sooner, not real sure unless I saw his logbook.... managing a logbook is harder than driving by far.. took me awhile to get it... alot is planning, I get a load and somettimes have to take my 10 hour then just to make it ontime for the delivery because of the time I have even though the 10 hour break is not due for another 6 hours, if I drove then after I would be having to split the sleeper birth or something so its all in planning your trips to get the most free time saved out of a logbook and not run out of hours...

 

To simplify the whole question as best as I can:

If he started his hours on the 12th (Monday) and ended them tonight (Sunday) after 10.5 hours on duty, can he roll the hours from the 12th (12.5) effective 12:01am on the 20th, Tuesday?

 

yes but say he shuts down tonight at 10 he might as well wait untill 8 am tuesday and pick up his 70

 

Thanks for the straight-forward honest answer...here's the pickle...

He's supposed to deliver 1st drop at 8am in Tulsa (which makes thee 12:01am, Tues, workable) 2nd drop is 500 mi away, somewhere in TX. What would you do then?

 

In other words, fudge (AKA: lie AKA: cook the book), stay off line 4, work 80+ hours/wk but only show 70 so you can keep them wheels rollin. :roll: :roll:

 

See CFM, that is what he does NOT want to do - start scheming and plotting just to stay out there - looking crazy after awhile.

It gets real confusing when you're new... you can easily understand the 70/8 rule if everyone reset, but they don't... is it legal to roll off days as long as you don't have more than 70 hours in an 8-day period? You can't always stick to the 8.75 per day theory as companies don't always give you time to deliver with those kind of hours. What to do?

 

no no no, called manage your time..... fudge is in the oven, can you smell what the dog is cookin ??? what I mean is why waste time, I said to do 2 things at once and log only once instead of twice..... really can cut out alot of time wasted, I log off if I stop to go to restroom and some folks don't, they still show there driving even though it was a 10 minute piss break I log off 15 minutes off duty, thats 15 minutes I was not driving and I was not I was pissing hehehehehe anyone wantt some fudge ????

hell when I am at the scale house sometimes I wait in line for 25 minutes to get onto the scale I log off then sometimes because I am not driving I am on break .... I get out of truck , get back in when traffic moves, isnt that a break ?? DOT saw my logbooks and seen I took a 15 minute offduty at a scale house, never said to me it was wrong but I am sure it is...

 

Here is a short and sweet answer.

Two ways to gain hours.

1st is to not do any work for 34 or more consecutive hours which will restart your 70.

2nd way is that whatever you worked 8 days back you will gain back at midnight.

for example assuming a fresh 70

1st worked 10 hrs, 60 left
2nd 10 hrs, 50 left
3rd 10 hrs, 40 left
4th 10 hrs, 30 left
5th 10 hrs, 20 left
6th 10 hrs, 10 left
7th 10 hrs, 0 left
8th 0 hours, does not work
9th he gains back 10 hours at midnight.

See how that works?

Deciding which one to use depends on the load assignment and how many hours a driver accumulates between shutting down when he runs out of hours on his 70 and when and how many hours he would gain back at midnight on the day he can start running again.

Remember, as far as the DOT/FMCSA is concerned the 34 hour restart is an option, not a requirement.

 

yes he could run 10 hours today and then sit there until midnight Monday and roll out and finish the trip and get unloaded in the am on Tuesday then take his 10 hr break and roll out Tuesday night to get to final on wed. me personally I would be there Monday night go to bed and wait for my log book to catch up. I would be well rested Tuesday and match up fuel etc so I could show the 34 hr restart too. but thats me. I bend the rules to fit when i want to drive and feel I can do it the safest. not sitting waiting for hours that some bureaucrats think will make me safe. i.e. not driving all night when my body wants to be asleep.