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Right....next year they will be looking for passports. That Tractor length is also true. I have run my Pete 379 across there several times...and it's waaay too long...but ... :? ....I suppose I should expect trouble sooner or later. Most of the time I run a KW W-900 which is also too long....but not as long as the 379.
My Company only insures now for me to run Ontario. Sucks....I use to continue on across Que'bec when going to N.H. , VT. , or ME. But I was the only Driver willing to spreckinze French. I only was slapped 27 times by the French Canadian waitresses. Guess my French was not so good. ops: :lol:
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Okay....I found the info on the length and weight limits...if you are interested. Now this is for Ontario. I think the various Provinces and Territories are responsible for their own laws....so you'd have to look them up...depending on where you are going.
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/R...h/050413_e.htm
Scroll about half way down and you'll find the Combination limits.
For a Tractor...6.2m........that's their limit.
Take 244inches x .0254m = 6.1976m. :?
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It's not 3 its 2.
Here is a summary.
http://www.safetyteam.com/general/DC...%20Summary.pdf
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The wheelbase law is definitely true, although I think you can get a permit for anything over 244". I know of a few guys that have 379x's, they don't have a permit and don't care!
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The eastern provinces don't seem to enforce it. The western provinces certainly do. They measured a T-600 I was driving at the weigh station just inside the line in BC. But I know guys that regularily run Ontario and Quebec with longer wheel bases... And, no special permits.
I also know that if Quebec stops you and decides they don't like you, for what ever reason, they will measure you and are not afraid of giving you a $368 fine, and tell you never to bring that truck into Canada again.
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2 dam cold up there!!!!!
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"The wheelbase law is definitely true, although I think you can get a permit for anything over 244". I know of a few guys that have 379x's, they don't have a permit and don't care!"
You're confusing Ontario and Quebec with Canada.
They have the same RTAC wheelbase law as the other provinces but the easterners need the extra length in the trucks to carry Kleenex for all the sobbing and whining they do.
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379ex is just a Peterbilt model and has no particular wheelbase attributed to the truck as with any other model.
Yes you can buy a permit but it restricts you to 20 meters (65 ft.) overall.
Can you say no 53 ft. trailer.
As for not caring, well I don't think DOT really cares whether or not you have to hire someone to pull your trailer from the scales or not.
There are ways around the issue and there are others that just don't get caught.
Some DOT realize that it is a old redundant law and don't enforce it but some provinces like BC enforce it vigorously.
BC civil servants are the kind that have no other use found for them so they quite handily fit the mode of a non thinking, pay check collecting useless slug quite unable to think for themselves.
They only know that if it wasn't for the government job that they have they would be out stealing hubcaps and working off streetcorners so they treat every potential capture as a future pay raise and an extension to the freeloading lifestyle.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: ........... :P ... :lol:
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So Porchclimber, I take it you are not a fan of the BC DOT? :P
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I was told by a scale in BC if you get caught and you are over 244" wheelbase you will be fined and have to drop the trailer and bobtail out of Canada.
Yes you can get a over length permit but you are restricted to 65 foot over all length. Mainly tankers that get the permits, as you are too long with 53 foot trailer.
Now I don't know for sure if it's true but I heard all Canada is going to 244" wheel base max depending on year.
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Windwalker is correct-
Its 244" nationwide, but some provinces are more liberal at enforcing it than others. The DOT can see a long wheelbase tractor coming a mile away
My dad told me there are a few 379's/W900's with compliant wheelbases, but they look very funny :lol:
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