Trainer Left Trainee at a truck stop?
#32
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by ken_o
come on whats he suppose to do sit in the terminal and not make any money, waiting for another trainer for god knows how long.
this is intimadation any good trainer would go the extramile with in reason for their student since most carriers offeer bonuses for completion and safe driving after the training is over. This company pays NO completion bonus and NO safe driving bonus. $70.00 a week for the training pay. tootie
#33
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ware,ma
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I was recently working for a certain reputable trucking company and it was my 2nd week of trianing when i got hurt .My trainer never asked how i was because he called my training coordinator to tell him that i'm too old in his opinion then proceeded to tell me that i should find a new profession so when i was put on the phone and questioned on how i hurt my back i quit.We just finished unloading so we sat for 4 hours till they could get us routed back to the terminal.well they called us up the next day and told my trainer to dump me off at a truck stop in Kansas so his new trainee could get in the truck there.I spent the day trying to find out how i was going to get home since they said there was no reason for me to go back to the terminal .Well luckily for me i found a flight leaving out of Denver International Airport i asked my trainer if he could drop me off at the airport when he passed it but he told me no because it was 15 miles out of route he dropped me at the Pilot in Denver telling me to take a cab it cost me $55 to take the cab to the airport.It cost me over $250 total to get home
#34
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Originally Posted by motman68
I was recently working for a certain reputable trucking company and it was my 2nd week of trianing when i got hurt .My trainer never asked how i was because he called my training coordinator to tell him that i'm too old in his opinion then proceeded to tell me that i should find a new profession so when i was put on the phone and questioned on how i hurt my back i quit.We just finished unloading so we sat for 4 hours till they could get us routed back to the terminal.well they called us up the next day and told my trainer to dump me off at a truck stop in Kansas so his new trainee could get in the truck there.I spent the day trying to find out how i was going to get home since they said there was no reason for me to go back to the terminal .Well luckily for me i found a flight leaving out of Denver International Airport i asked my trainer if he could drop me off at the airport when he passed it but he told me no because it was 15 miles out of route he dropped me at the Pilot in Denver telling me to take a cab it cost me $55 to take the cab to the airport.It cost me over $250 total to get home
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#35
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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A very similar thing happened to me during training.
Newbie trainer with a whole 6 months experience under his belt. Mentions that he has to leave for his National Guard training. Doesn't say when or where and that's the last I hear of it until... We're in southern Texas at the end of July. I wake up literally on the side of the road (off ramp exit) to an empty truck. It's 9am and already 110 degrees in the truck. The truck keys are gone and so is my so-called "trainer". I gathered up my belongings and walked to the end of the ramp. No truck stop, no motel... nothing in sight. I flipped a coin to decide which way to go. Turned right and started walking. After about one mile I did find a motel. (Luckily I had a little extra cash with me!) Called the company and explained the situation. Thankfully they were very helpful and placed me with a new trainer the next day.
#36
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Originally Posted by motman68
I was recently working for a certain reputable trucking company and it was my 2nd week of trianing when i got hurt .My trainer never asked how i was because he called my training coordinator to tell him that i'm too old in his opinion then proceeded to tell me that i should find a new profession so when i was put on the phone and questioned on how i hurt my back i quit.We just finished unloading so we sat for 4 hours till they could get us routed back to the terminal.well they called us up the next day and told my trainer to dump me off at a truck stop in Kansas so his new trainee could get in the truck there.I spent the day trying to find out how i was going to get home since they said there was no reason for me to go back to the terminal .Well luckily for me i found a flight leaving out of Denver International Airport i asked my trainer if he could drop me off at the airport when he passed it but he told me no because it was 15 miles out of route he dropped me at the Pilot in Denver telling me to take a cab it cost me $55 to take the cab to the airport.It cost me over $250 total to get home
Second point. Knowing the Denver airport getting you near the terminal would have been near impossible. I'd say you got off cheap. kc0iv
#37
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ware,ma
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1st of all i quit because i came into this to learn something not to learn how to cheat on my logs this guy during the first week drove under my log book because he was out of time .I think that wether i was a trainee or not that its his job to train me to be safe not to log illegally i was told be him that while he was driving under my log book that if he was to have an accident that i would have to say i was driving.2nd i dont think that anyone should be left more then 1500 miles from home no matter what happened like someone said in an earlier post i'm not saying who this company is because i dont want to scare any of the newbies off .3rd i hurt my back to the point that either sitting ,standing or walking was uncomfartable i couldnt even stand up straight i was never asked by my trainer if i was ok .4th i'm not a scumbag if i wanted to do something about this whole situation i bet i'm sure the higher ups in this company would like to know how this guy runs for more then HOS rules say you can run let me just say that he drove for more then 20 straight hours with taking a break.I'm not gonna turn this guy in eventually his ways of running are going to catch up to him .I'm moving on to better things right now i'll be making the same amount of money i would have made running long haul doing the local thing
#38
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Location: "The Shoals" Alabama
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Originally Posted by motman68
1st of all i quit because i came into this to learn something not to learn how to cheat on my logs this guy during the first week drove under my log book because he was out of time .I think that wether i was a trainee or not that its his job to train me to be safe not to log illegally i was told be him that while he was driving under my log book that if he was to have an accident that i would have to say i was driving.2nd i dont think that anyone should be left more then 1500 miles from home no matter what happened like someone said in an earlier post i'm not saying who this company is because i dont want to scare any of the newbies off .3rd i hurt my back to the point that either sitting ,standing or walking was uncomfartable i couldnt even stand up straight i was never asked by my trainer if i was ok .4th i'm not a scumbag if i wanted to do something about this whole situation i bet i'm sure the higher ups in this company would like to know how this guy runs for more then HOS rules say you can run let me just say that he drove for more then 20 straight hours with taking a break.I'm not gonna turn this guy in eventually his ways of running are going to catch up to him .I'm moving on to better things right now i'll be making the same amount of money i would have made running long haul doing the local thing
YOU are responsible for YOUR LOGBOOK...I don't care if the owner of the company told you to log it as driving when somebody else was.
#39
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 1,147
Originally Posted by Karnajj
Originally Posted by ken_o
Originally Posted by Karnajj
There is no way in hell somebody is going to get stuck with a abandonment if they got kicked off the truck by their trainer. It wouldn't happen if they up and quit voluntarily. The trainee is not the one responsible for the welfare of the truck. What s stupid and completely irresponsible statement to make. But looking at the source I can't say I'm surprised. The student/ is assigned to the truck he is a licensed driver, the student abandons the truck, ie quits in training. This is legally reportable and done all the time why don't you just read the company policy sheet he or she signed. another example for your weak mind the trainee decides to ram another vehicle according to your logic its not his fault and shouldnt get the accident on his dac. The rules apply to all drivers whether their new or not.The only place to leave a truck is a terminal or with written authorization from such term. If a student who is assigned to a truck leave the truck while in training it is abandonment as far as the student is concerned. As such it would be fair and proper to report such action to future employers as abandonment while in training. However, the student is NOT the assigned driver. That honor is the trainer's and the trainer only. The trainer is the responsible party. The only exception to this would be in the case of a team operation. In that case both drivers are responsible. Which is not the case here. In the discussion as such if a trainer dumps a student it would not be an abandonment and should not reported as such. This is one of many problems DAC has with their reporting system. The same can be said with many companies. If it is determined the student no longer meets the requirement(s) for training the reason for a student failed to complete his/her training should be included in any discussion. But it is not abandonment. ken_o really your example is apples and oranges. It doesn't apply in this discussion. kc0iv
#40
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Originally Posted by motman68
1st of all i quit because i came into this to learn something not to learn how to cheat on my logs this guy during the first week drove under my log book because he was out of time .I think that wether i was a trainee or not that its his job to train me to be safe not to log illegally i was told be him that while he was driving under my log book that if he was to have an accident that i would have to say i was driving.2nd i dont think that anyone should be left more then 1500 miles from home no matter what happened like someone said in an earlier post i'm not saying who this company is because i dont want to scare any of the newbies off .3rd i hurt my back to the point that either sitting ,standing or walking was uncomfartable i couldnt even stand up straight i was never asked by my trainer if i was ok .4th i'm not a scumbag if i wanted to do something about this whole situation i bet i'm sure the higher ups in this company would like to know how this guy runs for more then HOS rules say you can run let me just say that he drove for more then 20 straight hours with taking a break.I'm not gonna turn this guy in eventually his ways of running are going to catch up to him .I'm moving on to better things right now i'll be making the same amount of money i would have made running long haul doing the local thing
1) You said:
...because i came into this to learn something not to learn how to cheat on my logs this guy during the first week drove under my log book because he was out of time.
2) You said:
i dont think that anyone should be left more then 1500 miles from home no matter what happened...
You however elected to quit and with that choice you took it upon yourself to do it your way. Maybe not knowing what the out come would be. That is why you should have discuss this with the training department. You said:
i hurt my back to the point that either sitting ,standing or walking was uncomfartable i couldnt even stand up straight i was never asked by my trainer if i was ok
You said:
i'm not a scumbag if i wanted to do something about this whole situation i bet i'm sure the higher ups in this company would like to know how this guy runs for more then HOS rules say you can run let me just say that he drove for more then 20 straight hours with taking a break.I'm not gonna turn this guy in eventually his ways of running are going to catch up to him
Your election to not tell other drivers of your experience is your choice. I don't agree with your choice. It just might save someone else with a far dangerous outcome. I'm happy for your end results. You found a company where it appears you are happy with and I wish you well. kc0iv |

