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Well, Hobo did you hear the Chinese report of a supposed seismic event in the area of last contact off Vietnam? Could a nuke have caused that even at 15 to 35K feet?
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Yep. Heard about that AND a possible underwater volcanic eruption nearby. Maybe, the same event? Don't know. Think it was a coincidence. No, an "airblast" of a Nuke at 15 to 35k feet ABOVE sea level would not have caused either of those events. Now.... IF the wings stripped off on a dead man's dive, and the fuselage imbedded in the sea floor AND they had a major nuke warhead on board.... ah but, I don't think the timeframes match.
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As for ruling out lack of spatial awareness, go back to the Navy flight that was lost off the coast of Florida, Flight 19. A group of them had no idea where they were and to this day we have no idea where they went down.
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The left turn of the plane brought them back to, and over land that they KNEW to be there. Keeping the LAND out of your left window, would bring you right back down the west side of Malaysia, and BTW.... the airport is ON the west side of a ridge of mountains down the middle of Malaysia. IF altitude was a problem.... that would BE the way to return to the airport. Probably IS the standard "return to airport" flight plan for all domiciled flights. I.E: It might have already been stored in the auto pilot! Giving the "new" pilots plenty of time to input "changes" for the next leg of the flight.
Flight 19 had no spatial awareness because they were flying over open ocean. NO land in sight. IIRC... it even happened during daylight, so.... NO star "reckoning." THAT is when you lose all spatial awareness. Without the sophisticated systems we have Today... THEY were overmatched, and simply followed the leader of their "flock."
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Cellphones don't have to be placed in airplane mode. I have never set mine to that or turned it off when I fly. Mind you I have zero signal while in the air BUT,
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This is not upper Virginia (D.C.) we're talking about here. That far off the coast of a third world country... there are no towers close enough even if you had a megaphone! lol. Hell.... I can't even get a signal from Sprint in parts of NM and AZ! [More good planning?]
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supposedly a relative claims to have talked with a passenger on board. Nobody has said if it was before or after the disappearance or if it was before the plane took off.......another hypothetical that has been unanswered.
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Been watching MAJOR news outlets since I got home. Haven't heard that little rumor. You reading TheBlaze again? lol.
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Maybe if it was terrorism, did they take all cellphones and destroy them? Anyone who doesn't prove they have no cellphone or refuses to give it up is then killed?
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IF it was... maybe, they LEARNED from Flight 93? First step... take the plane to 45,000 feet and pop the masks and distract the passengers. They're already OUT of cellphone range and the plane HAS no wi-fi package. Maybe, they were smart enough to bring some kind of jammer? At any rate.... I don't believe any calls were made even if it was a "break-up."
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As for the depth of the Indian Ocean, yes it is just as deep but for where we are looking the water isn't as deep the Air France landing. Now we have expanded it though so now it moves into deeper water. I'm not understanding as to why we didn't move the search area's sooner.
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True... we believed it was a catastrophic event and crash somewhere in the area of last "voice" contact. Shallower water. Everyone did their part. Nothing there. We didn't move the search area sooner because the Malaysian gov't was holding stuff back! We searched where we thought it would be. Considering the mystery and vast ocean areas involved... I think, we are moving things along pretty quickly, now that WE are allowed to get more involved!
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We knew we weren't picking up any black box signal. It was said by experts we should be hearing them within at least 500 miles. If that is the case, we should have been moving our search area quickly.
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You might need to check those facts. Pretty sure I heard something more like 20 miles max. I even heard ONE guy say 1/4 mile! [but, I think he was on Fox.] Even the original search area was wide open ocean! We should have been seeing debris, too! We kept going farther out, thinking it was supposed to be in THAT area. THEN.... we heard about the military radar "hit." Like I said... perfect plan until you forget or don't know about ONE little thing! These guys may have studied the plane, and the area, and even civilian radars. But.... did they consider a simple EW radar site manned by two Malaysians who haven't seen a plane in months?
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The difference with Air France was that as it was falling(it was in a stall and falling) real-time data was being sent to Air France and Airbus, so we had a very good idea of where it was. Even so, it took 2 years to locate the boxes laying in water nearly 13K feet deep.
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Not SO good of an idea, eh? Point is, the boxes only ping for a month. It was two years later when we found them. Different situations completely (I think.) BTW... did you hear that the voice recorder won't be of any use if the #2 theory is even close? Know why?
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With this one, if it went down, nobody has a clue as to where to begin looking. We have been looking in the waters west of Malaysia along the coast there, no dice so they started expanding more west when it came out that some intel showed something headed west for up to another 4-7 hours. Remember, they were at least 1 hour into the 4 hour flight with a reserve of 3 hours to give them a total of about 6 hours of fuel left depending on how fast it was going and any head/tail winds.
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I heard it was about 7 hours of "unknown" flight time. The last "ping" around that "arc" was after 8 a.m. and the handoff was about 1:47? That doesn't mean the plane didn't fly on for some time AFTER that last ping... but less than one hour more. That's another 400 miles plus?
But.... I have a REAL problem with that "arc" that everyone on T.V. is "promoting." It's as if they thought the plane actually FLEW in that arc!
Take the last known (or even suspected) position of the plane, calculate the range in hours and convert to miles at both high AND low altitude, and then.... take a string and a pencil and create another "arc" that will intercept the arc they are showing! THAT will show you where they crossed the ARC (and then add another hour of flight) unless.... they circled a bit to waste time and frustrate our best investigators!
WERE they that smart? They've certainly had TIME to learn from OUR mistakes and weaknesses. You think they'd try to hijack another plane from Boston? No... I think the sleepy little country of malaysia is JUST about right!