Why do our SEALS and special forces do what they do?

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Old 05-06-2011, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Windwalker
It seems, since Obama won't release the pictures of the dead Osama, many people in Pakistan do not believe that he's really dead. Maybe, he should release them. The pics of Saddam's sons were released. Other's pictures have been released. Why not Osama's?

Also, I think I'd like to see the news media cut down on the "splashing" the Seals all over the networks. Yes, they did a great job. Something that, perhaps, no one could have done. But, they are also the "silent service". The ones that are never mentioned. And, that's part of what is essential to their success. The mystery works in their favor. Why all the coverage. For that matter, they should never have said that it was Team Six. They have never gotten this kind of coverage in the past, and I don't know that it's a good thing.

A former Seal was asked if he thought the name of the man that shot Bin Laden would be released. He said he prays, very fervently, that that information is NEVER released. It might put his family and relatives at risk. I agree. None of them can have their dedication compromised. If that happens to just one member, the whole team is endangered.

Yes, they did their jobs in the usual manner, but now, the media needs to back off of that subject.
I agree with this 100 percent. The SEALS go in, do their job, and get out. We'll never know their names and I don't really want to know their names. Someone called them "the quiet professionals". As for the pictures of the dead Osama Bin Laden it doesn't matter to me one way or the other as long as the son of a bitch is dead and burning in hell!
 
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Old 05-07-2011, 02:31 PM
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Good post there, Midnight!
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Yes! The Seals did an awesome job! Of course, they are the Seals, why wouldn't they pull off such a daring feat, but even a bird slips off of a branch every once in a while. The funny part about the whole mission is that they still took the time to "destroy" that one hellycopter that had a bad landing. I'm still wracking my brain over that one! That was daring, brave, and even crazy, but they got in there, got the man, and got out. :thumbsup:
 
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Old 05-07-2011, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackrabbit379
The funny part about the whole mission is that they still took the time to "destroy" that one hellycopter that had a bad landing. I'm still wracking my brain over that one! That was daring, brave, and even crazy, but they got in there, got the man, and got out. :thumbsup:
They didn't think of it as brave, daring, or crazy. The chopper was cutting edge technology, and a closely guarded secret. I'd say they were feeling a bit rushed or there would not have been large enough pieces for any of the locals to carry away. But, I'd guess that that they destroyed the most important technology, and hoped for the best on the rest. There's more important technology on those choppers than just the anti-radar outer skin.
 
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Old 05-07-2011, 04:44 PM
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[B][Why do our SEALS and special forces do what they do? /B]

They do this job because they have proven themselves to be better physically to go above and beyond what a normal person can do ... I appreciate ALL they do and sleep better knowing their out there ... WHOA FOR THE NAVE SEALS !!!

But there 1-2 people here that seem to think it's their duty to tear apart the statements/comments that others make on these topics ..... at times I think the name of this group should be changed from Class A Drivers ... to Class A Debate's .... and that way when new people come on board to get valueable information about Trucking .... their not slammed by the strong opinions on other things .... sorry but I think this 'in your face' attitude has gotten a bit out of hand.
 
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:06 PM
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4roses "tried" to quote the thread topic: [Which I fixed for her.]

Why do our SEALS and special forces do what they do?
They do this job because they have proven themselves to be better physically to go above and beyond what a normal person can do ...
Actually.... I've seen bunches of 'em on TV and radio lately, and MOST of them say that it's not about size or "bulk," .... it's about muscle tone, endurance, and intelligence. .... and it's about HEART!

You haven't got a clue. The average "team member" isn't a steroid constructed "specimen" like Arnold (Schwartenegger,) ... He IS a "normal person" with a BIG heart and a desire to be the best! [and some of them are WOMEN!]

I appreciate ALL they do and sleep better knowing their out there ... WHOA FOR THE NAVE SEALS !!!
"They're" not always out there. They spend lots of time in the states, even if much of it is training for a mission. It's the poor Arme grunts and the muddy-booted Mareenes that are "out there" (and dying) every day for you... and us. [Usually us Air FARTS guys are left out of the accolades.] :roll:

And WHOA is for horses! It's Oorah! or Oouah! for today's "figting forces." And they're NAVY Seals!

But there [are] 1-2 people here that seem to think it's their duty to tear apart the statements/comments that others make on these topics .....
Well.... after re-reading the whole thread a few times... I'm pretty sure that "veiled assault" was on MY "compound," so I'll take a stab at a defense (knowing full well it will probably end in a "firefight." )

Naaawwww..... I got better things to do. :hellno:

at times I think the name of this group should be changed from Class A Drivers ... to Class A Debate's .... and that way when new people come on board to get valueable information about Trucking .... their not slammed by the strong opinions on other things ....
Well, THAT would be silly. MOST of us are drivers, and only a FEW of us like to "debate." We tend to keep it on THIS forum.... so the NEW drivers can get their info on the "NEW DRIVERS.... INFO.." forum! :roll::roll::hellno:

sorry but I think this 'in your face' attitude has gotten a bit out of hand.
Sell it to "the Donald," honey. Sell it to the Tea Party. :roll:

Nice to see you back on the board 4Roses. :lol2:
 
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Old 05-07-2011, 11:28 PM
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I heard that the UN wants to investigate to see if the seal's actions were legal. Obama has identified them, which could make them and their families a target of terrorists. Don't be surprised if they tried to charge them for murder. There was one report that I heard that said that Bin Laden was unarmed. Nothing was said about 3,000 unarmed citizens who were killed by this guy. The seals followed their orders and did their job.
 
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Old 05-08-2011, 05:55 AM
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I was not aware that Obama identified them. I am VERY SORRY to hear that. For that matter, if I were still in the Navy, I would rather they had not even said just which team it was. That should have been left up to the individuals whether they wanted to come forward or not. In the past, they've had individuals involved in getting Hamid Karzi back into the country interviewed on TV, but that was the individual's choice to do so. It should have been left up to them this time as well.

Yes, Bin Laden was unarmed. But, they did find enough arms in the room to stand off a dozen or more. His wife was also in the room, and lunged at the team member. She was shot in the left leg but not killed. (Neutralize any possible interference that might compromise control of the situation.) Then, Bin Laden was shot before he could pick up a weapon. "WHEN IN DOUBT, EMPTY THE CLIP." That's how you survive to go on to the next job.

If you notice, in any of my early posts, I did not identify which team it was until someone else did. Obama should never have said which members were assigned the mission. All it takes is a "FATWAH" from one of the clerics that Bin Laden must be avenged. Parents, children, wives, and even aunts, uncles, and cousins can still be targets. Al Queda does have cells in this country. Look at what happened at (was it?) Fort Hood, A member of our own armed forces began shooting our soldiers? Time and time again, they've proven to invalidate what was considered logical reasoning. We'll never forget the first, and greatest time, when it was thought that "NO ONE WOULD HIJACK A PLANE LOADED WITH PEOPLE JUST TO FLY IT INTO A BUILDING". Western reasoning says "Survive and live to fight another day". But they've got suicide bombers every day.

Identification other than Navy Seals should not have been released. In years past, you didn't even hear that the Seals were involved.
 
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It doesn't make any sense for them to be identified. One thing about the special forces is their anonymity. Once they are identified, enemy threats against family members could hinder their effectiveness. I don't see a reason to even have identified the branch of government that took this action. They could have mentioned that it was American forces or military without compromising the identity of those involved. Some things are better left unsaid. Our special forces have done their job without fanfare for decades. To use this type of event to further a political agenda is unconscionable. Whether it was out of ignorance or not really caring, it was poor judgment on behalf of the president and his administration.
 
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Personally...........I think ya'all are getting ahead of yourselves!! President Obama did not "Out" the members of Seal Team Six. Well.........not ALL of them. He did "OUT" the K-9 officer that was involved! But....that particular officer is now retired...officially.

IF anybody "outs" the HUMAN members of the team, it will be jealous team members whom were not incuded on the mission.....or family members, of those team members whom were involved, who brag to the wrong person..............OR call Geraldo Rivera to sell their story.
 
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The president didn't out or name ANYONE! (not even the dog!) Show me a link to something other than an email that GMAN received, or quit spreading lies about Obama!
 
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