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Midnight Flyer 05-02-2011 09:00 AM

Why do our SEALS and special forces do what they do?
 
The more I read about it the more I wonder why our men and women in our military special forces (especially the Navy SEALS) do what they do. The team that killed Bin Laden went deep into Pakistan, got into a firefight with Bin Laden's people, killed him and several others, and then was gone all within 40 minutes. In my opinion it takes a hell of a person with a very deep love of country to volunteer, go through the hell of training, then put themselves deep into harm's way to pull off their mission. All of our military personnel have my deepest love and respect but these people, there's no words in the English language to describe the respect I have for them. All I can say is thanks guys, you don't know how much your country looks up to you and loves you for what you did and what you do!

Mr. Ford95 05-02-2011 10:10 AM

They even had a chopper go down in the middle of the whole ordeal. All they did was split up and jump on the other 3 before blowing up the one they crash landed. IMO it takes a half crazy person to be Special Forces or SEALs but more than anything they have more courage than most everyone else combined in our armed forces.

Courage (also bravery, fortitude, or intrepidity) is the ability to confront fear, pain, risk/danger, uncertainty, or intimidation. "Physical courage" is courage in the face of physical pain, hardship, death, or threat of death
Yet they go anyways without a 2nd thought or hesitation on a mission that may be a one-way mission. It also takes smarts, they planned the mission themselves with backup plans for any and all possible scenario's. While a chopper going down would normally be game over for most the SEALs acted like Marine's, they adapted and overcame in order to finish the mission before Pakistan had any clue what took place and without any American casualties.

MichiganDriver 05-02-2011 12:28 PM

I'm glad they're on our side. :bow:

golfhobo 05-02-2011 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by MichiganDriver (Post 497214)
I'm glad they're on our side. :bow:

Yeah? Well, I'm glad they don't QUESTION the orders of "the Black dude" with an ATTITUDE who lives in the WhiteCube eating the "people's food!" :lol:

The BEST special forces in the World executed almost perfectly the biggest "raid" since Entebbe.... at the command of, and ONLY because of the program they've been training on since OBAMA re-instituted it.... and CHEERED the prez when he gave them the GO sign for it... and GOT that sumbitch that Dubya quit looking for! :pissedoff:

And barely a WORD from the right. (There HAVE been some good words.) But, YET.... barely a mention of the "leadership" of this president! :hellno:

ALL the credit has gone to Dubya for being the "architect" of the Bush Doctrine and the "Dead or Alive" poster! Yet, it was OBAMA in the 2008 election debates with McCain, who said: "We will ACT! We will find and KILL UBL and crush Al Quaida."

Promise made.... promise KEPT!

That is "change" for me. Promise kept.

What about HOPE?? Could Obama return the hope and spirit of America before 9/11?? The ole geezer in Pearl Harbor didn't think so! .... and spoke up about it! I wonder if he had his T.V. on last night?? I wonder if he saw the thousands of citizens celebrating outside the WhiteHouse and at ground Zero?

That's the HOPE I was looking for. Promise kept.

GolfHobo is "calling" the 2012 presidential election right now. If there was any doubt before this week, it should now be dispelled.

Windwalker 05-02-2011 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95 (Post 497203)
Yet they go anyways without a 2nd thought or hesitation on a mission that may be a one-way mission. It also takes smarts, they planned the mission themselves with backup plans for any and all possible scenario's. While a chopper going down would normally be game over for most the SEALs acted like Marine's, they adapted and overcame in order to finish the mission before Pakistan had any clue what took place and without any American casualties.

First of all, you'd have to go through Coronado to understand the training.

Second, theirs is NEVER a one-way mission. The Navy Seals were instituted by President Kennedy. They've been in, virtually, every single tight spot ever since. From Viet Nam to the present. In all that time, we buried the first man EVER KILLED IN COMBAT a little over a year ago. Remember the picture of the casket spiked with pins? "One-way-mission" is not in their vocabulary. If they're going, they're also coming back. It's part of their training. They're ready for any mission, anywhere in the world, on a minute's notice.

Third, their armament is far removed from standard military issue. Five men (one team) can lay down fire power nearly equal to two companies of normal infantry. And, they are trained to REACT to what they see, rather than see, think, and react.

Consider, also, of all the people that volunteer for Coronado, only a small percentage actually makes it through to graduation. The ones that are qualified to wear the pins are the very best of the best there are. It's a percentage of "the cream of the crop" that graduates. I would strongly suspect that some of the Seals had to insure the safety of the paramilitary CIA as well. But, they did not act like marines. Talk to a few of the marines that have been in action with the Seals. They'll tell you the difference.

I begin wearing my pin again after 9-11, and said I would wear it till Bin Laden was caught and dealt with. I've finished polishing it, and it's back in it's case.

Mystikal 05-02-2011 04:46 PM

I had a former seal that was medically disqualified (developed allergic reactions to the chemical compounds of the SCUBA gear anti-bubbling equipment) after several years in combat in my police academy. He said it was the comraderie that made him want to be a seal. He told us that after he was disqualified he was offered a desk position, still within the seal command, but he turned it down. said that if he couldn't be out there with his "brothers" he'd rather not be in the military and separated and went law enforcement instead.

Mr. Ford95 05-03-2011 08:47 AM

Wind, you took my comment out of context there. They go without hesitation knowing the risk of it possibly being a 1 way mission but they plan for it to never happen that way. They go places nobody else is willing to go to on missions nobody else will take.

Windwalker 05-03-2011 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Ford95 (Post 497238)
Wind, you took my comment out of context there. They go without hesitation knowing the risk of it possibly being a 1 way mission but they plan for it to never happen that way. They go places nobody else is willing to go to on missions nobody else will take.

And, they do so very successfully.

golfhobo 05-03-2011 04:57 PM

Mr. Ford said:


They even had a chopper go down in the middle of the whole ordeal. All they did was split up and jump on the other 3 before blowing up the one they crash landed.
There were actually only THREE total. The third WAS the "backup" in case one of the others failed as they wouldn't have had the lift force necessary to save even all of our SEALS without it. So, they extricated using TWO choppers.


IMO it takes a half crazy person to be Special Forces or SEALs but more than anything they have more courage than most everyone else combined in our armed forces.
COMBINED???? Really? That's either more courage than the Greek Gods had..... or, it's a definite SLAP against the other 99% of our military (combat) forces.


They planned the mission themselves with backup plans for any and all possible scenario's.
Um..... not quite. The mission was planned by JSOC. There were other units that could have been tasked with it.... but, they chose Seal Team 6. The team trained for several weeks without EVER knowing the actual "target." They "trained" on backup plans that have long been part of JSOC's inventory of plans. They most certainly DID adapt and complete their mission.... cuz that is what they are trained to do. And they were picked partly because they are the best.

But, if you think Obama went to them and said, "Hey guys! We FOUND UBL.... now go and git him .... and I'll leave it up to YOU to plan the attack..." you are reading too many comic books. :lol:

Just trying to keep it real. :roll::smokin:

Mr. Ford95 05-04-2011 02:18 AM

No mission is ever the same so no plan can be saved for later use in the same manner. The WH keeps updating the whole deal so who knows WTF actually all went down. My comments were made with the info available at the time before updates. The only credit I give your boy is for having some of Bush's guts to give the ok eventually. All other credit goes to the SEAL team not Obama. His feet were not on the ground tracking clues over there or getting shot at. The whole "I" got Osama sickens me when it was the SEALs who did it.


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