Actually, if you were to give credit to all that were involved, there were (perhaps) thousands that were gathering information, sifting through it, and compiling it. And, that includes the woman in Idaho ( a private, unpaid, citizen) that has a knack for listening in on Arabic sites and passing the information on to the government. I don't doubt that she was in on this one as well. In the past, she was almost "single-handedly responsible for thwarting some of the terrorist's plans. She's been in the news once, but outside of Idaho, you won't find out where she is, her name, or what she looks like. It was the Seals that carried out the mission, and no one can downplay their performance or what they faced, but without an army of support behind them, there would have been no mission. There are many names that you will never hear that had just as much to do with the mission as the Seals. They simply don't face the danger.

 

yup, it take teamwork, and EVERYONE did their job. I know golfhobo is wanting someone to bicker at him but all I have to say, is we were in the service. at least i beleave i heard you mention you were. I might lean right but when I was in the navy the prez was my top boss. no mater who it was, if he gave the order i followed it.

 

It seems, since Obama won't release the pictures of the dead Osama, many people in Pakistan do not believe that he's really dead. Maybe, he should release them. The pics of Saddam's sons were released. Other's pictures have been released. Why not Osama's?

Also, I think I'd like to see the news media cut down on the "splashing" the Seals all over the networks. Yes, they did a great job. Something that, perhaps, no one could have done. But, they are also the "silent service". The ones that are never mentioned. And, that's part of what is essential to their success. The mystery works in their favor. Why all the coverage. For that matter, they should never have said that it was Team Six. They have never gotten this kind of coverage in the past, and I don't know that it's a good thing.

A former Seal was asked if he thought the name of the man that shot Bin Laden would be released. He said he prays, very fervently, that that information is NEVER released. It might put his family and relatives at risk. I agree. None of them can have their dedication compromised. If that happens to just one member, the whole team is endangered.

Yes, they did their jobs in the usual manner, but now, the media needs to back off of that subject.

 

Mr. Ford said:

I couldn't find a better "choice of words." What I mean is.... there are standard "templates" for backup plans for nearly EVERY offensive mission our military/gov't embarks on. If a team goes in on foot, they have a helo extrication "backup" option in case they are discovered. If they go in by helo (and they all fail) .... they have a backup plan to egress through safehouses or with the help of "friendlies" or local assets.

SOME of this specific plan will include input from the team.... but, the plans are plentiful and specific and trained on often... by ALL of our Special Forces.

Shortly after taking office, Obama told Pinetta to start making plans to FIND.... and eliminate.... UBL. He had to "reconstitute" a CIA team that Bush had "terminated" about the time he started saying he no longer really CARED about where UBL was or whether we "got him." He's convened 5 "strategic" meetings with them in the last 6 months (after leads were confirmed,) and had already given the order BEFORE he joked around at the Correspondent's Dinner! He risked his career and re-election on this "gutsy" move! You.... and ole geezer.... wanted LEADERSHIP??? "Whoop, there it is!" :lol:

Neither were Dubya's..... EVER! But, Obama had his people "doing it" instead of changing wars and chasing revenge. :roll:

I think I've seen ALL the footage (especially of the horse's mouth itself,) and I don't recall him saying "I" got UBL! He said "WE" got him! As in WE THE PEOPLE. WE Americans. WE the forces of the U.S. military.... and WE the special teams that make up the best of the best.

You want "sick??" That would be him rapelling down a rope from a Blackhawk onto the deck of an aircraft carrier before a banner saying "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!" :eek2::hellno::moon:

 

I wasn't looking for a "debate." I WAS kinda joking around a bit, but I meant what I said. There's been alot of talk lately about NOT taking orders from a perceived "illegitimate" president. There's been the "another letter to Obama" from the ole geezer (I say that with loving reverence and appreciation for his service!) where he has only found his voice to speak up to the "head man" when he feels comfortable (possibly) speaking down to a black man. [And many of his facts were wrong.]

There is all the revisionism of history since the raid concerning Bush's tactics and focus. Mostly B.S. And any credit given to Obama from the right has been gudgingly and politically expedient.

Yes, I served in the service. I served in the military branch that was deeply dedicated to the Intelligence agencies (plural) of our gov't. I spent my first half (including 9 months of specialized training) attached to the National Security Agency (NSA.) I spent my last two years flying recon missions out of Greece on an RC-135V (and M.) About 2 years after my honorable discharge, I went to work in a satellite intelligence facility that I can't even NOW name. It doesn't officially EXIST.

I was in Greece when the Iranian "students" took over our embassy there, and in the air during the Israeli/Syrian "war" about the same time. I was on duty in the un-named facility the night we bombed Libya under Reagan.

I liked Reagan, and often said, "Well.... well.... he might get us INTO a war, but he'll give us the bullets to fight it with!"

I just heard Rachel Maddow insinuate that "if I were watching right now... I probably didn't HAVE.... a T.S. Clearance with "special compartmented endorsements." She was WRONG.

I always "followed orders" from the Head Man. But, that doesn't mean I wasn't inclined AND trained to question and anlayze everything.

Sorry. Just felt it necessary to bore y'all with MY creds (again) in light of this Piecnek dude! :hellno:

 

YEPPER!! Good thing we got the seals to do jobs like that, BUT if it wasn't for Obama.....

Good lord Hobo, the way you sing his praises Obama must've planned the whole mission, after finding the compound and IDing Osama by flying a drone overhead and then flew the C&C chopper!

And why did YOU have to bring race into it? I think by now pretty much evrybody knows he's a black man!

 

Well... Let's see.... NRO. NGA.
:lol::lol::lol: I'm afraid "WIKILEAKS" has got you covered.:lol::lol::lol::smokin:

 

I said I couldn't name the FACILITY, not the customer agencies. NRO was secret at the time, but has since been "outed." I've been out a long time..... I don't recognize NGA. Wikileaks didn't "out" the NRO, and wikileaks (to my knowledge) hasn't leaked any info about our program. Remember, the Army guy who was the source ONLY had a SECRET clearance. NOTHING he leaked even came close to Top Secret material (let alone "compartmented.")

You only mentioned 2 agencies. I never counted them, but I recall something like 12 - 18 in the header of every message I ever saw or contributed to. I still can't (and won't) name any of them although you might figure NRO and NSA to be two of them.

Wikileaks is both good and bad news. But, I've never been too concerned about it due to the LIMITED access the young soldier had.

 

Actually, I know of 21 that use satellite intelligence. NGA is National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. They may have added a few since your day. And, if you saw my "smileys", I was joking... Well, at least a little. But, I also have things I don't believe I'm allowed to talk about either. And, my service was a bit earlier than yours. ('67 to '73) And, back then, civilians had no idea what a Navy Seal was. They actually thought the Navy had "trained seals" swimming alongside the ships.:lol:

 

ur seals like our s.a.s trained to do these type of jobs ,get all the no hoping dreaming ragheads they whinge when you hurt there religion etihics but dont care when they kill inocent people at work in twin towers or elsewhere fk them