Jesus Statue Destroyed by Act of GOD!
#21
06-21-2010, 04:20 AM
Science or man has NEVER been able to disprove the existence of GOD. Nor have they ever been able to explain the astronomical mathematical probability of everything coming together scientifically to make everything we know into existence without an omnipotent being. Even Darwin recounted his theory of evolution and of man evolving from apes before his death. You see, there is a big gap between apes and man, even though we do share some physical traits. The missing link should have been found by now if it existed. When you look around can you really think that all of this came into existence merely by accident? And who or what got everything started in the first place?
At the same time, from what I have read and learned, science actually has proven, at least for me, that GOD actually does exist. And, it is not very hard to find that proof either.
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#22
06-21-2010, 05:18 AM
And NONE of them were serious (or speaking literally) when they said God was dead. To DO so, would have been to admit he was literally alive first.
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#23
06-21-2010, 06:15 AM
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. I however, prefer my own, and would hope everyone else would read the articles for themselves before taking someone else's word for it.
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#24
06-21-2010, 06:20 AM
:lol2::lol2:
THAT would be VERY interesting, Hoggie! But, sad fact is.... it's been MORE than 3 days, and the "statue" hasn't RISEN from the grave! :hellno: If "I" were GOD.... I'd have done JUST THAT! What more proof would be needed? But, though the faithful hang on to any and every possible "act of God," .... NONE is forthcoming! :hellno: You think OBAMA is a poor leader??  :roll:GOD is given the PERFECT chance to give a sign that he is still "alive and relevant," .... and he "takes a PASS!" He either ISN'T... or he doesn't really CARE about those who are waiting and questioning. What happened to the "burning bush" that didn't BURN?? IF this statue had been hit by lightining and burned but SURVIVED??? I would be converted immediately! And ISN'T that what GOD says he WANTS for me? You can say all the "what if's" you want, Hoggie. But, you can't find a SINGLE "real" experience that proves his existence OR relativity. I really WOULD like to "believe," Hoggie.... but.... your "GOD" hasn't responded to anything that has happened in History in my entire lifetime, and those before me. His "chosen people" live in constant fear of attack in Israel. His "followers" have been executed and persecuted. His "creation" is at war with each other constantly. I gotta say... NONE of his plans have worked out! It's NOT a question of whether I'm a Liberal or a Conservative or a Centrist. I'm just an American. A HUMAN who feels alone and responsible on this planet. I can't DO much.... but, I don't expect some imaginary "guy in the sky" to do it FOR ME!
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My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson- Democratic-Republican That some should be rich, shows that others may become rich, and, hence, is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Abraham Lincoln "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." -Abraham Lincoln Last edited by RebelDarlin; 06-21-2010 at 12:51 PM.
#25
06-21-2010, 07:20 AM
Originally Posted by Hobo
You think OBAMA is a poor leader??
:roll:GOD is given the PERFECT chance to give a sign that he is still "alive and relevant," .... and he "takes a PASS!" He either ISN'T... or he doesn't really CARE about those who are waiting and questioning. Both in comparing God to a filthy liar, and feeling a mortal such as ourselves can expect anything of God.
Originally Posted by Hobo
I really WOULD like to "believe," Hoggie.... but.... your "GOD" hasn't responded to anything that has happened in History in my entire lifetime, and those before me.
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#26
06-21-2010, 10:51 AM
Interesting. I would have thought by a response golfhomo posted to another topic where he made a concentration camp reference that he was just another anti semitic democrat ****** bag. Turns out I was wrong, he is an anti religion democrat ****** bag.
#27
06-21-2010, 12:47 PM
However, the more I read and learn, the more I realize there are extensive errors in the Biblical Record. And, as far as that "missing link", the current, known fossil record covers far less than .01% of the past. There are constantly new species being discovered from various periods of the past. So, that "missing link" could still be among the 99.99% still undiscovered.
At the same time, from what I have read and learned, science actually has proven, at least for me, that GOD actually does exist. And, it is not very hard to find that proof either. I am not sure what you are referring to when you speak of errors in the Biblical record. There have been errors in interpreting elements of the Bible. For instance, there are some who believe that this earth is only about 6,000 years old based upon the Biblical record. Others believe that the earth is millions of years old. It may be somewhere in between. There are those who think that there is a conflict between science and a belief in God. I don't think that a conflict exists between the two.
#28
06-21-2010, 04:54 PM
I am not sure what you are referring to when you speak of errors in the Biblical record. There have been errors in interpreting elements of the Bible. For instance, there are some who believe that this earth is only about 6,000 years old based upon the Biblical record. Others believe that the earth is millions of years old. It may be somewhere in between.
There are those who think that there is a conflict between science and a belief in God. I don't think that a conflict exists between the two. The "Sons of GOD" were not fallen angels. We are the direct descendants of the Sons of GOD. They were a species of humans and the "daughters of man" were another species of humans. The "daughters of man" were taken against their will, raped, and gave birth to something "in-between". Which may have been like the product of a horse and donkey, a mule that is sterile. The fossil record does show that. They have found fossils that are the product of both species. And, the timing isn't that far off to be the answer to the verse in the Bible. It is also possible that the error is due to some translation we don't even know about. It happened before the Jewish Faith came into being. And, the Mt Sinai of Moses is what we, today, call Hazeroth. That error is believed to be due to translation. But, there are many others. It isn't that science and faith are in conflict. In most cases, science has upheld the Bible completely. Where, in an age thousands of years ago, society did not have any other explanation for events, today, science has been able to explain exactly how it came to happen. Oh, it was still an "Act of GOD" (just like the lightening that destroyed the statue), but it was not a bearded figure at the head of a cloud filled with thunder and lightening. There is not much doubt that the errors were inadvertently introduced by man, throughout man's existence on the earth. Sometimes, errors in translation, and sometimes because of a lack of understanding of the nature of the events. It does not make the Bible wrong, just not as accurate as we are lead to believe. And, in no way does it suggest that GOD is dead, or never existed.
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#29
06-21-2010, 08:47 PM
Well, actually.... according to the Bible, it really IS. Jesus died for my sins as well as others. Not sure what YOU were taught, but I was taught that God wants a personal relationship with me.
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#30
06-22-2010, 12:14 AM
Well, the "Flood of Noah" was not a "universal" flood. The entire earth was not flooded. And, Noah and his family were not the only people on earth that survived the flood. It also happened some 500 years earlier than the date given in the Bible. But, for those that authored and translated the Bible, all of the, then, "known" world was indeed flooded.
There is evidence that a worldwide flood did occur. You can see evidence in parts of the western U.S. For instance, you can see evidence that that there was a massive flood in areas such as Nevada and Wyoming. I have not been to the Middle East. Noah and his family did live in that part of the world so I have to believe that a worldwide flood did occur. I have seen a couple of documentaries where they have discussed evidence of a worldwide flood and how it might have occurred. The evidence that a worldwide flood happened has scientific evidence that it did occur. The "Sons of GOD" were not fallen angels. We are the direct descendants of the Sons of GOD. They were a species of humans and the "daughters of man" were another species of humans. The "daughters of man" were taken against their will, raped, and gave birth to something "in-between". Which may have been like the product of a horse and donkey, a mule that is sterile. The fossil record does show that. They have found fossils that are the product of both species. And, the timing isn't that far off to be the answer to the verse in the Bible. It is also possible that the error is due to some translation we don't even know about. It happened before the Jewish Faith came into being. I don't recall having read anything about what you are talking about. I do recall scientists finding remains of very large humans. The Bible talks about "giants" or a "land of giants." It is just another discovery which validates the Bible. And, the Mt Sinai of Moses is what we, today, call Hazeroth. That error is believed to be due to translation. But, there are many others. It isn't that science and faith are in conflict. In most cases, science has upheld the Bible completely. Where, in an age thousands of years ago, society did not have any other explanation for events, today, science has been able to explain exactly how it came to happen. Oh, it was still an "Act of GOD" (just like the lightening that destroyed the statue), but it was not a bearded figure at the head of a cloud filled with thunder and lightening. There is not much doubt that the errors were inadvertently introduced by man, throughout man's existence on the earth. Sometimes, errors in translation, and sometimes because of a lack of understanding of the nature of the events. It does not make the Bible wrong, just not as accurate as we are lead to believe. And, in no way does it suggest that GOD is dead, or never existed. I agree that it may be possible that some could have made minor errors in translation, but I also believe that those who did the translations did so with great care. For instance, King James was very insistent that those who did his translation were very meticulous about the translation so that the Bible was accurate. There are some countries that have had their names changed in more modern times. For instance, Gog and Magog no longer exist under those names. That doesn't necessarily put the accuracy of the Bible into question. It was accurate when it was written and the description makes it clear as to what modern countries the authors were referring. |
