Key word "FLAG". "Having" a picture, silkscreen or likeness thereof is OK. You cannot go around "Wearing" a "FLAG". You can have a shirt with the picture of a flag on it or a hat or a comforter that looks like a flag or drapes, that are made in the image of the flag, but you don't go out and hang your drapes or comforter from a flagpole like you would a "Flag". It is the Flag itself that they are talking about. You don't lay a "Flag" over your bed as a cover, or put a "Flag" up on a curtain rod and stick it in your window.

Thats the way I see/read it anyway. Otherwise, there are going to be a whole lot of people pizzed off because they can't wear their t-shirts and hats on the 4th of July. issedoff:

 

That is true and absolutely without argument. But we are not talking about the actual flag itself. The FLAG should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery". These are shirts bearing the likeness of the flag and are not a flag itself. I have a couple of polos with a United States flag as the emblem. Go to any Fourth of July parade and 90% of the people will be dressed in shirts and hats, with umbrellas, bandanas, wristbands, etc. etc...all bearing the likeness of the American flag.

Two very different items.

Cut a hole in my flag and wear it as a poncho and I'm gonna smack you upside the head for violating the US Flag Code. But have the likeness of the flag on your clothing or your car or your swim trunks or your truck or whatever, and you're OK.

 

The words “flag, standard, colors, or ensign”, as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.

 

You're either wearing the flag, or you aren't. If you are wearing the flag, or representation of the same, then you're violating the flag code. if you aren't, then you didn't get sent home from school for wearing the flag, did you?

 

That's odd. I thought you blocked me robertt

 

So you’re saying that our Olympians that wear various representations of our colors and our standard on their clothing are “wearing the flag”? What about some of our sports teams, hockey goalies in particular with patriotic air brushings on their masks? Truck drivers with $80,000 flag paint jobs on their show rigs? The flower bed planted and arranged in the likeness of the American flag? The entire side of a brick building or an old barn adorned with a painting of the stars and stripes? The flying American flag on one of my PC screensavers? The instances are endless and not a single one of them is in violation of the US Flag code because none of them are actual flags. These shirts, unless they were cut out of and created from an actual American flag, were not a violation of the US flag code, either, because they were not actual flags.

I’m sorry, but this isn’t one you’re going to win.

Cheers.

 

He did...but this is partly my fault. I informed him you suggested a truce.
I've watched you troll bait him plenty since you've come here.

 

There is nothing odd about it, I did, but I heard a rumor that things were toned down a bit so I thought I would "check" things out. If I don't like it, I'll "check" back out.

 

Your either wearing "THE" flag or "A" flag or your not, that's correct, sort of. If I'm wearing a hat or a t-shirt with the picture of a flag on it, it's not "A" flag. Their is a difference between "A" flag or the representation of one, (picture, stiching, embrodery etc.,) "A" flag hangs from a flag pole or auditorium or some semblence thereof. A representation of one doesn't. "I" think your reading too much into it.

Just sayin.

 

I'm not "saying" anything. The US Flag Code is. I have quite deliberately not posted any comment. However, Sports teams wearing representations of the flag on their clothing are, I would assume, covered here:

No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations.

I don't care either way, however, these kids are being a tad hypocritical as they themselves are disrespecting the flag, if the flag code is to be followed, while at the same time complaining that the flag is being disrespected by their being not permitted to violate the accepted rules for it's display.

I don't make the rules, hell, it's not even my flag, but it seems to me these little asshats decided to say FU to the Mexican kids, got sent home by an overzealous tin pot dictator of a school official and are now running to the media.

The school made a crappy decision and violated the kids freedom of expression, which incidentally trumps the flag code. However, we seem to have arrived at a point where instead of going home, getting changed, coming back to school and allowing the parents to discuss things with the school, instead, they called Matt Drudge or whoever.

As I see it the T shirts are fine, flag code notwithstanding, the bandannas were in violation of a school policy banning bandannas.

There are far better ways that both sides could have handled the issue.