Obama's REAL Agenda...
#31
There is absolutely NO reason why these terrorists should be brought to New York to stand trial. It is nothing but a political football game and grandstanding by these politicians. Security is likely to be a major problem and from reports that I heard this morning it will cost a fortune and create a nightmare for commuters and businesses in the area. Not only that but it will put it will also be difficult for the survivors with the daily media reports. These people should be ashamed to put these families thorough this circus.
The Chief of Police in NYC disagrees with you. Pretty much ANYONE who doesn't have a right wing agenda... disagrees with you!
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#32
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Irrespective of the fact that our economy is still in a severe recession and that unemployment rates continues to skyrocket through the roof and the fact that according to the government’s own numbers, the government is spending more than $1.4 trillion, which really is more than $1.8 trillion, than it is taking in, Obama’s priorities are to severely increase the budget deficits even further in the future by taking over healthcare in America via Obama ration-care and by taking over energy in America via cap and trade, which both together will not only massively increase the budget deficits in the future, but will also skyrocket the cost of living for average Americans at the same time it destroys jobs and does massive harm to the economy.
His other priorities are to take over education in America so that the left can control what our children are inculcated with, to silence the opposition at all cost by marginalizing them as kooks, radicals, extremists, and evil doers, and finally to fuel illegal immigration under the guise of comprehensive immigration reform, which will inexorably not only provide amnesty for at least 24 million illegal aliens already illegally living in the country, that will soon morph into over a 100 million new immigrants as soon as their immediate families are brought in and literally destroy our social infrastructure at the same time, but will also create massive new incentive for further illegal immigration in the future. Indeed, if you look at everything Obama and his radical Marxist cronies have done since he became President, from putting Islam up on a pedestal, from incessantly apologizing to our enemies at the same time he also bends over backwards to appease them and deliberately alienates our allies, to prosecuting government workers, CIA personnel, and other intelligence personnel in order to make us defenseless, to bestowing constitutional rights on illegal combatant terrorists, to closing down Gitmo and proposing to transfer Islamofascist terrorists to the heartland of America, everything is clearly being orchestrated to harm and undermine this country and to hasten the day when ultimately the dollar will inevitably collapse and the government will be forced to fall, and it’s because Obama and his fellow Marxist travelers don’t see themselves as being citizens of the US but as revolutionaries and citizens of the earth, and as for as they are concerned America and capitalism are evil incarnate and must be brought down. Last edited by Glad Hand; 11-17-2009 at 03:55 AM. Reason: added an accidentely omitted word.
#33
I must say, this is very interesting. Most of this "political" stuff is plumb over my head, but it's nice. It's funny how so many folks have different strokes. Just kidding- It's funny how so many folks have different views, and opinions. I try to "cypher" (spelling) the big words, but this is interesting.
#34
The CURRENT mayor of New York disagrees with you. Also... the FORMER mayor of NYC (Guiliano) disagreed with you BEFORE he agreed with you! :hellno:
The Chief of Police in NYC disagrees with you. Pretty much ANYONE who doesn't have a right wing agenda... disagrees with you! I have no problem denying these terrorists the same rights guaranteed by our constitution. After all, our constitution is for American citizens, not terrorists who want to destroy this country. I have heard some people being interviewed including some of the families who lost loved ones in the attack on 9/11. They don't want to have to deal with the daily news clips about the ongoing trial. The courthouse where this trial will take place is one of the most highly trafficked areas of New York. It will give these terrorists a world stage from which to espouse their garbage. I don't have a right wing agenda. I have an American agenda. I don't think the survivors of these attacks have a right wing agenda. I do have compassion for the survivors. The grandstanding by these left wingers will likely be remembered when it comes time for them to be reelected. And as far as the mayor is concerned, he is not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination. I have no idea what the chief of police might have to say about it. More than likely he would not want these people in his city with the accompanying security issues. Reports have put the cost at well into the millions. I would prefer that money to be spend on providing jobs rather than security for these terrorists. Since they have confessed I don't see a need for a trial. Just put them out of our misery.
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The government obviously has a choice about where to try the 9/11 suspects. They are going to try some other inmates at Guantanamo Bay by military tribunal. So if that option is available, and you add all the associated risks with trying them in New York City, this makes no sense. I have yet to hear ONE compelling case for this decision. NOT ONE GOOD ARGUMENT.
This is simply the president himself wants to put Bush/Cheney and the CIA on trial, and divert attention from the problems his administration is having. A very stressful, dangerous, and costly CIRCUS trial, lasting for the next 3-4 years.
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The government obviously has a choice about where to try the 9/11 suspects. They are going to try some other inmates at Guantanamo Bay by military tribunal. So if that option is available, and you add all the associated risks with trying them in New York City, this makes no sense. I have yet to hear ONE compelling case for this decision. NOT ONE GOOD ARGUMENT.
This is simply the president himself wants to put Bush/Cheney and the CIA on trial, and divert attention from the problems his administration is having. A very stressful, dangerous, and costly CIRCUS trial, lasting for the next 3-4 years. Security is going to be a nightmare for the people and police of NYC. This is a useless waste of resources and puts the people of NYC at high risk. If I were the people of New York I would remember this when the time comes to elect a new mayor and representatives. These people obviously have no regard for their constituency. I agree that there is no good reason to move this trial to New York other than to take some of the heat off of the president and his administration. It is like a magician. He keeps your attention on one hand while he does something else with the other.
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Security is going to be a nightmare for the people and police of NYC. This is a useless waste of resources and puts the people of NYC at high risk. If I were the people of New York I would remember this when the time comes to elect a new mayor and representatives. These people obviously have no regard for their constituency. I agree that there is no good reason to move this trial to New York other than to take some of the heat off of the president and his administration. It is like a magician. He keeps your attention on one hand while he does something else with the other.
#39
What astounds me is how insane must our President be, to have this mindset over this. Obama is either insane, and needs help, or he is evil-minded, and deliberately looking to hurt America, in many ways.
These terrorists are illegal combatants in an undeclared war, who wear no uniform and attack innocent civilians. They have NO RIGHTS! No rights under the International Law. No rights under the Geneva Convention. No rights under the U.S. Constitution. They were captured on foreign soil, and admitted guilt. We have proof of their guilt. Everyone knows this to be true. We have the right to shoot them anytime, anywhere. That is their justice. Nothing more. :moon:
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Last edited by Roadhog; 11-17-2009 at 10:44 PM. Reason: cut some unnecessary language...liberals test my tolerance >8^/
#40
Justice should be swift for these perpetrator's. Unfortunately, the media their lawyers will milk this for all they can. Since they have admitted their guilt there is no reason to even have a trial. They go before a judge and receive their sentence. There is no reason to take years to come to a decision of guilt when they have already admitted such. And when they are dead they should be buried in pig skins. It is their belief that they cannot go to heaven if they are buried in pig skins. If I remember correctly one of the generals who have been fighting this war did this in the early stages of the war and was shut down by the liberals. If they believe they cannot go to heaven if buried in pig skins and they commit mass murder then it would have a positive effect on our efforts to take any and all actions necessary to stop them. These people have been slitting the throats of innocents and yet there are those in this country who want to coddle them. We have an administration who protects the rights of these terrorists, yet spits in the face of our close allies. :hellno:
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